Toned Morgan Purchase (Part 2)

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tmoneyeagles, Dec 30, 2010.


What is the Grade?

Poll closed Jan 1, 2011.
  1. MS62

    0 vote(s)
  2. MS63

  3. MS64

  4. MS65

  5. MS66

    0 vote(s)
  1. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Alrighty gang,

    Here are the results from the previous poll.

    Total number of voters: 21

    Votes for MS62: Grilledporkchop

    Votes for MS63: 1337BaldEagle, krispy, mjackson, raider34, zachfromnj

    Votes for MS64: cpm9ball, FreakyGsMom, Leadfoot, Lehigh96, Log Potato, Marauderrt10, rotobeast, TopcatCoin

    Votes for MS65: Duke Kavanaugh, illini420, Lonestar, Market Harmoney, Shoewrecky

    Votes for MS66: GDJMSP, rlm's cents

    Below are my pictures of the coin. This coin has been the toughest coin I've ever dealt with. To get the toning and luster on this coin were extremely hard to do, and I was not able to do it on my point and shoot or my new camera. I got the color pretty darn good.

    Here are the original pictures:


    Here are my pictures:



    Cast your vote as to what the grade is now. I have a feeling lots of votes will change.

    The poll will end Jan 1st.

    FWIW, I think PCGS got it right.
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  3. Kryptonitecomic

    Kryptonitecomic New Member

    Looks like a 64 to me.
  4. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    Carried over from first thread of part 2. (With forgotten poll)

    In this situation I was looking to get the colors in the coin over the luster. I can get one or the other at the moment with my current set up.
    With other coins my set up works just fine but this is just one of those coins...
    It took me a long time to shoot and edit the pictures I posted, and until I add another light to my set up that might be about as good as it will get.

    I will comment on the grade of the coin and the luster of the coin when the poll is over.

    I think at one time it looked worse than it does already. I think it may have already been dipped, which might explain the reasoning in capturing the luster with my camera with my current lighting set up.
  5. raider34

    raider34 Active Member

    The surface marks are all light, but there are a lot of them, plus, the luster still looks weak (and subdued by the toning). The strike looks about average, or maybe just a little weak for a '83-O. Much better pics, but I still say 63.
  6. Marauderrt10

    Marauderrt10 Toners rule******

    as i said in the previous thread, It was dipped and retoned. Still standing with my initial grade ;)
  7. krispy

    krispy krispy

    The clarity in the new pics removes suspicious areas I called out in question in the first round but I'm sticking with my original vote of 63.
  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I am not sure I know where you are trying to go with this thread. If I were to grade based solely on your pictures, your poll does not go low enough. A coin has got to have some luster even to get a 62. Therefore, I voted 64 based on your comments and the eBay pictures.

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Dropped mine to 65, it has more marks than I thought based on the other pics. I think the coin has more luster than the pics are showing. Reckon we'll see.
  10. Duke Kavanaugh

    Duke Kavanaugh The Big Coin Hunter

    I was a 65 and stayed there but I'm split now between 64 and 65.
  11. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    Shouldn't the coin have more luster though?
  12. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'm sticking with my original grade of 64.

  13. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I already answered that question.

    Just to add on to that, I not only got the color, but the details as well. The luster is something I didn't get. Now how much there really is should be answered after I reveal the grade.
  14. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    Thanks and slabs are a real badrear to photograph!
  15. RaceBannon

    RaceBannon Member

    Nice coin, love the toning. Im guessing MS63. The bag marks on the face are much more evident in your most recent photo.
  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast


    I have a few questions for you!

    Did you really move to Florida?
    If so, are you suffering from heat stroke?
    If not, why are you pulling our legs.

    I can't ever recall you being on the high side of a guess your grade thread. I am going with Raider and downgrading my guess to MS63. I am interested to know your opinion of the grade, not your guess of what PCGS called it.
  17. prolawn_care

    prolawn_care New Member

    Aparently i didnt vote from the other pics, but i would have graded MS-63 from the original pics.

    I would go MS-64 with the current pictures. Good looking coin, but does lack luster, almost like it's been dipped or clean in some way....
  18. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  19. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    I think his guess was for what PCGS called it, versus his actual grade.
    (In the previous thread he had this to say)

  20. Marauderrt10

    Marauderrt10 Toners rule******

    come on, give us the grade already! ;)
  21. tmoneyeagles

    tmoneyeagles Indian Buffalo Gatherer

    No, gotta keep that "suspense" going :D
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