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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2558351, member: 19463&quot;]I do not have big silver but...</p><p>[ATTACH=full]550989[/ATTACH] </p><p>AR litra (1/20 of the tetradrachm size) .7g 465-450 BC</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]550992[/ATTACH] </p><p>AE tetras? (dots - one up, three down???) 420-405 BC Unfortunately the bull face did not make it on the flan.&nbsp;&nbsp; The bronzes I have seen just have normal bulls but this could be a man head???&nbsp; The head of Gelas is identified by legend before the face of which three letters can be seen if you have good imagination. </p><p><br /></p><p>I am regularly upset by coins of this region mislabeled by sellers.&nbsp; Take the one below for example.&nbsp; The seller illustrates an old tag that IMHO correctly calls the coin a tetras or 1/4 litra.&nbsp; They &#039;corrected&#039; it to trias or 1/3 litra but a trias needs to have four dots since the dot system used indicated the number of twelfths of a litra the coin represented.&nbsp; We see this error on Republican bronzes and on coins of pre-Roman Italy and Sicily like this one.&nbsp; I really do not know what to make of my coin and whether the top dot should be counted making it a trias or if only the lower three count making it a tetras.&nbsp; I have not been able to find another with bull right and legend on the side with the river god.&nbsp; I would appreciate photos of other coins.</p><p>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=126578" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=126578" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=126578</a></p><p><img src="https://www.cngcoins.com/photos/big/79000067.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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