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<p>[QUOTE="eddiespin, post: 646669, member: 4920"]But that's your tastes, Mark, in a toned coin, like I said. I don't like "loud" toning. Pocket Change doesn't like "Art Deco" toning. But, another person says, "Loud? Art Deco? Excuse me, folks, that's <i>monster </i>toning. And I love monster toning." That's that persons tastes. </p><p><br /></p><p>I think I can get a feel for your gradual toning, even appreciate it, for the same exact reasons as you. But, what are we doing, here? Are we imposing what standards, what tastes, should be in the eye of the beholder in a toned coin? That's not too right.</p><p><br /></p><p>There was a CU thread. When the coins were thought to be NT, they were liked by the members who bought them, and, for that matter, considered "market acceptable" by the TPGs who slabbed them. Then, the seller comes back and says, "Nope, they're AT, I had them all doctored (paraphrasing)." Then, everybody condemned the coins. Supposing the guy came back, later, and said, "Nope, they're really NT. It was a joke, folks. I just wanted to see how you'd react." And, a thousand FBI lie detector tests "prove" he's telling the truth this time around. Are they back to liking these same coins? First, they like the coins, because they think they're NT, then, they don't like the coins, because they think they're AT, then, they're back to liking the coins, because they think they're NT? These are the <i>same </i>coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Did you see Doug's repro of the Thaler Dollar he showed here only like 9,000,025 times since I've been here? It toned in a very short time, like in a matter of months. And all he did was subjected it to storage. Others were subjected to the same storage, and some of those toned a little bit, but not like this one. Supposing he listed it on eBay. He simply subjected them to storage. These are NT coins. Supposing, instead, however, he subjected them to storage with the malicious intent of toning them. Does he now list the coin on eBay as AT? If he lists it as NT, when his intent was to tone, is he scamming the public? I'll say it, again. Do you like the toning? And, is it <i>not </i>spray paint? Then, go for it, it's NT. That's what it boils down to.</p><p><br /></p><p>There's a TPG that will slab coins AT if it thinks so. And yet, it doesn't even define AT. How irresponsible is that, giving that kiss of death to a coin, slabbing it in a "coffin," as such, when it can't even articulate/define what it's talking about? I'm sorry, I fail to understand it. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Don't mean this flippantly, Lehigh, but good for you. Respectfully.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="eddiespin, post: 646669, member: 4920"]But that's your tastes, Mark, in a toned coin, like I said. I don't like "loud" toning. Pocket Change doesn't like "Art Deco" toning. But, another person says, "Loud? Art Deco? Excuse me, folks, that's [I]monster [/I]toning. And I love monster toning." That's that persons tastes. I think I can get a feel for your gradual toning, even appreciate it, for the same exact reasons as you. But, what are we doing, here? Are we imposing what standards, what tastes, should be in the eye of the beholder in a toned coin? That's not too right. There was a CU thread. When the coins were thought to be NT, they were liked by the members who bought them, and, for that matter, considered "market acceptable" by the TPGs who slabbed them. Then, the seller comes back and says, "Nope, they're AT, I had them all doctored (paraphrasing)." Then, everybody condemned the coins. Supposing the guy came back, later, and said, "Nope, they're really NT. It was a joke, folks. I just wanted to see how you'd react." And, a thousand FBI lie detector tests "prove" he's telling the truth this time around. Are they back to liking these same coins? First, they like the coins, because they think they're NT, then, they don't like the coins, because they think they're AT, then, they're back to liking the coins, because they think they're NT? These are the [I]same [/I]coins. Did you see Doug's repro of the Thaler Dollar he showed here only like 9,000,025 times since I've been here? It toned in a very short time, like in a matter of months. And all he did was subjected it to storage. Others were subjected to the same storage, and some of those toned a little bit, but not like this one. Supposing he listed it on eBay. He simply subjected them to storage. These are NT coins. Supposing, instead, however, he subjected them to storage with the malicious intent of toning them. Does he now list the coin on eBay as AT? If he lists it as NT, when his intent was to tone, is he scamming the public? I'll say it, again. Do you like the toning? And, is it [I]not [/I]spray paint? Then, go for it, it's NT. That's what it boils down to. There's a TPG that will slab coins AT if it thinks so. And yet, it doesn't even define AT. How irresponsible is that, giving that kiss of death to a coin, slabbing it in a "coffin," as such, when it can't even articulate/define what it's talking about? I'm sorry, I fail to understand it. Don't mean this flippantly, Lehigh, but good for you. Respectfully.[/QUOTE]
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