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<p>[QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 840465, member: 16510"]I got to go with Doug on this - they will tone, in fact it's a just a matter of time when compared to all others. What else do we have to compare them to? All other copper coins!</p><p>It always amazes me when I open a bank wrapped roll of wheats or memorials over 40 or 50 years old and they are still red. They are the lucky ones. The ones from the teens or 20's that are still red, (if original) blows me away. We have 2009 Lincoln copper compositions turing the moment they left the mint. Again the answer is, some do, some won't - some have, some have not yet, the key word being "yet". Now with slabs you may have an advantage depending on it's history before that but it's just an advantage nothing more, it will tone over time.</p><p> </p><p>Just consider what parameters or conditions, the advantage that one lucky red copper coin must/might need to have for a pristeen gem red copper coin over 60 years to remain red ?</p><p>Was thay coins life spent in Arizona, New Mexico, California, inside a tube, 2x2, indoors, out of light, never handeled or handeled with golves, never coughed over or talked over, no sulver in the safe, and on and on and on and just how many have had "that perfect life"? </p><p> </p><p>Coin do turn inside slabs we all know that it you've been around awhile. Will every single gem red copper you have will tone inside it's slab during your lifetime? Maybe not but it will be the exception rather than the rule, they will tone. Not only that but other changes will and can occur, spots, discoloration, milky places - you name it, even years or decades after they have been effected.</p><p> </p><p>Thinking your gem red copper coins do not or will not change is not reality, it does not make sence because it's simply not true. If it is not true it does not make sence - the odds on red copper staying are not in your favor or complete control, I wish it were not so but it has to be![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bhp3rd, post: 840465, member: 16510"]I got to go with Doug on this - they will tone, in fact it's a just a matter of time when compared to all others. What else do we have to compare them to? All other copper coins! It always amazes me when I open a bank wrapped roll of wheats or memorials over 40 or 50 years old and they are still red. They are the lucky ones. The ones from the teens or 20's that are still red, (if original) blows me away. We have 2009 Lincoln copper compositions turing the moment they left the mint. Again the answer is, some do, some won't - some have, some have not yet, the key word being "yet". Now with slabs you may have an advantage depending on it's history before that but it's just an advantage nothing more, it will tone over time. Just consider what parameters or conditions, the advantage that one lucky red copper coin must/might need to have for a pristeen gem red copper coin over 60 years to remain red ? Was thay coins life spent in Arizona, New Mexico, California, inside a tube, 2x2, indoors, out of light, never handeled or handeled with golves, never coughed over or talked over, no sulver in the safe, and on and on and on and just how many have had "that perfect life"? Coin do turn inside slabs we all know that it you've been around awhile. Will every single gem red copper you have will tone inside it's slab during your lifetime? Maybe not but it will be the exception rather than the rule, they will tone. Not only that but other changes will and can occur, spots, discoloration, milky places - you name it, even years or decades after they have been effected. Thinking your gem red copper coins do not or will not change is not reality, it does not make sence because it's simply not true. If it is not true it does not make sence - the odds on red copper staying are not in your favor or complete control, I wish it were not so but it has to be![/QUOTE]
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