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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 838944, member: 112"]No, they are not making it up. The part that says - <i>"and may not be toned brown, olive, or any other color"</i> comes direct from the ANA standards, word for word. Small problem though, it is from the first edition published in 1977. We are now on the 6th edition published in 2005.</p><p><br /></p><p>The wording you quoted above was changed, I believe, but I don't have a copy to prove it, in the 2nd edition. It was definitely changed by the 3rd edition,1987, to read "with full original color and blazing luster". And again, that wording only applies to copper. Even the 1st edition permits nickel, silver & gold coins to be toned and still graded as MS70.</p><p><br /></p><p>The rest of the wording they use in that article is their own - they are making it up. What the book actually says is - <i>"MS65 This refers to an above average Uncirculated coin which may be brilliant or toned ......"</i></p><p><br /></p><p>Now there is something else that you need to understand, in 1977 when the 1st ANA standards were published, the grade of MS67 did not even exist. There were three and only three MS grades - MS60, MS65 & MS70. Additional proof that the author of that article is injecting his own personal standards into the article instead of using actual published standards.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is but another example of the bad or mis-information that is out there. And there's a lot of it. Always consider the source before trusting anything you read. Including this.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 838944, member: 112"]No, they are not making it up. The part that says - [I]"and may not be toned brown, olive, or any other color"[/I] comes direct from the ANA standards, word for word. Small problem though, it is from the first edition published in 1977. We are now on the 6th edition published in 2005. The wording you quoted above was changed, I believe, but I don't have a copy to prove it, in the 2nd edition. It was definitely changed by the 3rd edition,1987, to read "with full original color and blazing luster". And again, that wording only applies to copper. Even the 1st edition permits nickel, silver & gold coins to be toned and still graded as MS70. The rest of the wording they use in that article is their own - they are making it up. What the book actually says is - [I]"MS65 This refers to an above average Uncirculated coin which may be brilliant or toned ......"[/I] Now there is something else that you need to understand, in 1977 when the 1st ANA standards were published, the grade of MS67 did not even exist. There were three and only three MS grades - MS60, MS65 & MS70. Additional proof that the author of that article is injecting his own personal standards into the article instead of using actual published standards. This is but another example of the bad or mis-information that is out there. And there's a lot of it. Always consider the source before trusting anything you read. Including this.[/QUOTE]
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