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Message:: [QUOTE="stevereecy, post: 838809, member: 19884"]Here we go...January 2008 issue of Coin Prices.  Page 10 & 11.  No author name.  The article is ANA grading standards and the first sentence states that the grades listed in Coin Prices is based on ANA Grading standards...blah, blah, blah Under the definition for Uncirculated coins, it states that "Except for copper coins, the presence or absence of light toning does not affect the uncirculated coins grade..." Later on, they start discussing grades by coin type.  They have this paragraph:"Copper and bronze coins: To qualify as MS-70, a copper or bronze coin must have its full luster and natural surface color, and may not be toned brown, olive, or any other color.  (Coins with toned surfaces that are otherwise perfect should be described as MS-65 rather than MS-67)(sic)"...I think they mean "ms70...but it says ms67 Next paragraph for MS-67 says "This refers to a coin that is midway between MS-70 and MS-65.  The coin may be either brilliant or toned (except for a copper coin, for which a toned piece should be described as MS-65". See what I mean?  Are they pulling these from the ANA standards?  This must be something they are making up for themselves. Steve[/QUOTE]