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<p>[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 24766128, member: 110226"]That's a very nice coin with a nicely centered strike. The assayer is P with a small o above. This is a variety of the plain P assayer for this mint. That assayer, whose name is unknown, at least in Krause, held the office from 1619 to 1635, a very long period.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the date, it usually appears on the cross side from around 11 o'clock to about 1 o'clock, but it could be in another locations in the legend. On your coin, based on the photo, looking at the top of the cross side, going left to right, I think I see a 1 (a curved 1 typical for this mint), a 6 and possibly a 2. The final numeral is a tough one to decipher, but it might be another curved 1, making the date 1621. That last numeral is a guess on my part, but it might be correct. That would make your coin KM 36.3, with a value of $225 in Fine. For VF KM lists it at $400.</p><p><br /></p><p>I outlined what I think is the date on your coin:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1584264[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Keep in mind though, that the KM values are generally out of date, so you may want to check other coin listings and auction results.</p><p><br /></p><p>BTW what is the weight of your coin?</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a Toledo 4 reales from my collection. This is an earlier assayer, C, and the date is (16)11. As you can see the cross side has a die shift strike, muddling up the legend as so often occurs. Still, part of the date, the last two numerals "11" can be seen from around 4 o'clock to about 5 o'clock.</p><p><br /></p><p>This coin weighs a hefty 14.0 grams, above the 13.5 grams standard.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1584262[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="robinjojo, post: 24766128, member: 110226"]That's a very nice coin with a nicely centered strike. The assayer is P with a small o above. This is a variety of the plain P assayer for this mint. That assayer, whose name is unknown, at least in Krause, held the office from 1619 to 1635, a very long period. As for the date, it usually appears on the cross side from around 11 o'clock to about 1 o'clock, but it could be in another locations in the legend. On your coin, based on the photo, looking at the top of the cross side, going left to right, I think I see a 1 (a curved 1 typical for this mint), a 6 and possibly a 2. The final numeral is a tough one to decipher, but it might be another curved 1, making the date 1621. That last numeral is a guess on my part, but it might be correct. That would make your coin KM 36.3, with a value of $225 in Fine. For VF KM lists it at $400. I outlined what I think is the date on your coin: [ATTACH=full]1584264[/ATTACH] Keep in mind though, that the KM values are generally out of date, so you may want to check other coin listings and auction results. BTW what is the weight of your coin? Here's a Toledo 4 reales from my collection. This is an earlier assayer, C, and the date is (16)11. As you can see the cross side has a die shift strike, muddling up the legend as so often occurs. Still, part of the date, the last two numerals "11" can be seen from around 4 o'clock to about 5 o'clock. This coin weighs a hefty 14.0 grams, above the 13.5 grams standard. [ATTACH=full]1584262[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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