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<p>[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 1063676, member: 15199"]I was collecting coins when PCI began, and at first, the grading was very tough compared at that time to ANAC, the dominant grader. This was before hard plastic slabs, usually a photocertificate.</p><p><br /></p><p>When grading/slab companies first start , they claim the standards are strictly followed, blah, blah, But they find that the majority of the submitters do not submit to get an accurate grade, they want a better than accurate grade, and they will switch if they don't get a good percentage like that. PCGS worked on a slightly different business model, in that they originated the sight-unseen buying premise and guarantee, and once the dealers jumped onboard, they also shifted to "Market grading". PCI , IMO, tried to lower their standards to increase submission flow, whereas with PCGS, you knew you could bargain for the price based on the grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, in the last 25 or so years, undergraded PCI, ANAC, rattler ( old green) PCGS, have been removed by people who could grade well enough to know PCGS would grade higher, but I feel those days are mainly over. True, there are still some winners out there in old slabs, but most that have a good chance of upping the grade, have already been sacrificed many years ago. However , ebay sellers still use the come-on about being in an old slab, no matter how bad they really are. </p><p><br /></p><p> I still check out old slabs at shows, but I haven't purchased one I thought could be significant upgrade. Well one Morgan was PCGS 64 old label, and I knew the details would go MS65, but the price was almost a 65, and the toning was , shall we say curious.</p><p><br /></p><p>I always photograph every coin that I submit to PCGS or NGC, just to convince myself it is the same coin. But they are not infallible, question them on it, if you feel strongly about it.</p><p><br /></p><p>All in my opinion.</p><p>Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="desertgem, post: 1063676, member: 15199"]I was collecting coins when PCI began, and at first, the grading was very tough compared at that time to ANAC, the dominant grader. This was before hard plastic slabs, usually a photocertificate. When grading/slab companies first start , they claim the standards are strictly followed, blah, blah, But they find that the majority of the submitters do not submit to get an accurate grade, they want a better than accurate grade, and they will switch if they don't get a good percentage like that. PCGS worked on a slightly different business model, in that they originated the sight-unseen buying premise and guarantee, and once the dealers jumped onboard, they also shifted to "Market grading". PCI , IMO, tried to lower their standards to increase submission flow, whereas with PCGS, you knew you could bargain for the price based on the grade. But, in the last 25 or so years, undergraded PCI, ANAC, rattler ( old green) PCGS, have been removed by people who could grade well enough to know PCGS would grade higher, but I feel those days are mainly over. True, there are still some winners out there in old slabs, but most that have a good chance of upping the grade, have already been sacrificed many years ago. However , ebay sellers still use the come-on about being in an old slab, no matter how bad they really are. I still check out old slabs at shows, but I haven't purchased one I thought could be significant upgrade. Well one Morgan was PCGS 64 old label, and I knew the details would go MS65, but the price was almost a 65, and the toning was , shall we say curious. I always photograph every coin that I submit to PCGS or NGC, just to convince myself it is the same coin. But they are not infallible, question them on it, if you feel strongly about it. All in my opinion. Jim[/QUOTE]
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