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<p>[QUOTE="princeofwaldo, post: 7689620, member: 24091"]It's not the older holder that generates the premium bid, it's the much more conservative grading associated with the era it was graded in. Especially if the lower graded coin has a CAC sticker, --but even without one for world coins. The phenomenon is especially pronounced for 18th century copper coins. So many of them belong in details graded holders but aren't, and when comparing coins graded 30 years ago to what gets in a holder now days, there are often (certainly not always) coins even several grades lower that out-peform higher graded more recently graded examples at auction, and toning or color has nothing to do with it.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for plus grades, you are probably right, especially amongst registry set enthusiasts who are more concerned with the grade than the coin contained within. But that doesn't change the fact that it was a gimmick from the very outset meant to generate additional grading fees. There wasn't any clamor for it from collectors before being introduced by the services. My favorite being lower graded coins with a + in grades like an AU53+ ,,,..as if such precision were a measurable thing at that level. Why don't they just call it an AU54? Would make about as much sense.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="princeofwaldo, post: 7689620, member: 24091"]It's not the older holder that generates the premium bid, it's the much more conservative grading associated with the era it was graded in. Especially if the lower graded coin has a CAC sticker, --but even without one for world coins. The phenomenon is especially pronounced for 18th century copper coins. So many of them belong in details graded holders but aren't, and when comparing coins graded 30 years ago to what gets in a holder now days, there are often (certainly not always) coins even several grades lower that out-peform higher graded more recently graded examples at auction, and toning or color has nothing to do with it. As for plus grades, you are probably right, especially amongst registry set enthusiasts who are more concerned with the grade than the coin contained within. But that doesn't change the fact that it was a gimmick from the very outset meant to generate additional grading fees. There wasn't any clamor for it from collectors before being introduced by the services. My favorite being lower graded coins with a + in grades like an AU53+ ,,,..as if such precision were a measurable thing at that level. Why don't they just call it an AU54? Would make about as much sense.[/QUOTE]
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