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Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Rheingold, Aug 5, 2018.

  1. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    There is a row of four slots marked as being for commemorative
    half dollars in that album. I use them for colonial coins instead.
     
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  3. harley bissell

    harley bissell Well-Known Member

    aha. That 7070 is newer than mine. Mine does not have a hole for a commemorative dollar. Now that I've seen the scan I see why he said that he needed one.
     
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  4. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Only to play games and experiment. Its purpose is silver sulfides. If I run across a particularly nasty nickel, I might play with it.
     
  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    The latest 7070 still has the four holes for half dollar commems on page 4, and the dollar one on page 5. I snagged up an MS 1988 Olympic at an auction that was in just a capsule. I haven't decided what I want to put in those 4 on page 4.
     
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  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    In that slide, the reason I mentioned the fact that 7 nickels make 35 grams is because I use a simple pan balance.
     
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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I don't know whether that package is a legitimate US Mint product, but given that they routinely refer to cents as "pennies" in their descriptions and press releases, even though that incorrect terminology gives some CoinTalk members a heart attack... :rolleyes:
     
  8. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yeah, good thing I'm surrounded by hospitals, and and and, politicians too, so you can't have everything. When I'm at home, I'm a six-minute walk from the Gov's office and eight from the Supreme Court courtroom. At work, it's 60 seconds and 90 seconds.
     
  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yeah, I didn't want to trigger you there. :rolleyes: But I figure the risk of mentioning the "penny" thing when talking to you about the Mint is about like worrying about giving you one more salty French fry -- before you chase your meal with two quarts of seawater.
     
  10. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Boo hoo to them. :p They were commonly referred to as pennies long before any of us were born. Sure, cents is the more accurate word, but making that correction is a waste of everyone's time and energy.
     
  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    What's even wilder is listening to someone refer to the British ones as cents. Really? Of course, since 1970 they sort of are.
     
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  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What exactly is it you want to know about - albums, or dipping coins ?
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Too much of either can lead to the other.
     
  14. Bambam8778

    Bambam8778 Well-Known Member

    Albums. I just purchased a Dansco Album for Susan B's. I looked for a while over the multiple albums that are out there and for my choosing, I prefer Dansco Albums. What I am concerned about is am I eventually destroying the coins by putting them in to the albums or is it ok? I keep the room moisture level relatively low and for now I will keep the album in my safe which also has a dehumidifier in it. I didn'tn want to hijack the thread. Maybe a private message or a link to another thread will suffice.
     
  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    These are good questions. If moisture is an issue, I don't care for what albums do. If you really have humidity under control, it's not so bad. Proofs are almost always more affected. I put my best Type 2's and my best Wide Rim/Near Date 79 in slabs.
     
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  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's easier to just answer your question.

    Albums are bad for several reasons. You can start with this question, what is the first rule of coin collecting ? Answer, never touch the surface of a coin. Now ask yourself how you get a coin into an album.

    Next, cardboard dust. All albums produce it and it can and will scratch coins, it can and will cause spots on coins. Next, just about all paper products are produced with sulfur and sulfur is bad for coins. It can cause very ugly toning, but sometimes pretty toning too. Thing is, you never know which one you're gonna get until you already have it ! And, if toning is allowed to progress unchecked as it often is with coins in albums, it can and will destroy the coin. And don't forget, as the albums are putting of those sulfurous gasses, even the coins not in the albums will be affected as well.

    Then you have the slide issues, album slides scratch coins. They can do this by the plastic itself scratching them, or by the slide moving particles of cardboard dust across the coin when the slide is moved.

    Next, cardboard attracts and holds moisture, and right next to your coins - the last place you want it.

    And then there's the glues used in making albums, those are bad for coins too for the same reasons that the cardboard is - they put off harmful gasses.

    Now if I sit here and think long enough I can probably come up with a few more issues. But any single one those I already mentioned should be enough all by itself to explain why collectors should not use coin albums.

    And before you ask, if we don't use albums what should we do ? Simply do a search using the words - proper storage - and my user name and you'll find more threads than you care to read. But here's one to get ya started -

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/coin-albums-holders-damaging-quality.314189/page-2#post-3046107
     
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  17. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    You can examine ANY of my albumed coins with as much magnification as you like and you will NOT find a fingerprint. Have you ever seen a "particle transfer roller"? I use a "pusher" made of the same material to insert coins into an album. It's the same material used to remove foreign matter from digital camera sensor chips.

    Every year when I get my new mint set to update my sets, getting them into my albums is about a three hour production.

    The job isn't done until I see the coins are NOT going to touch the slides. Except for one album, my 7070, I NEVER album thick coins.

    My early copper goes in cotton inserts and then into 2x2 kraft envelopes.

    Bottom line: if you're not prepared to go all OCD, it's better not to use albums.
     
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  18. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    To summarize Doug's post, search for the terms "slide damage", and "album friction".
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Now there's a shocker. :rolleyes:
     
  20. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I would find an uncirculated in a capsule. Don't cut open the card - they are scarce.
     
  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yes, double collectible. Coin and Olympic Games. Imagine the 2028 interest. Got 10 years left?
     
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