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<p>[QUOTE="Herodotus, post: 8192294, member: 111387"]Let's be honest.. Ancient coins in slabs (on average)cost more. After all, one is paying for a coin and the slab(and what it implies/entails).</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd like to believe that I'm a savvy bargain-hunter. It's why I've yet to buy a slabbed coin. It's also one of the primary reasons, (despite looking at and bidding on quite a few), I've yet to win/buy any individual coins from Heritage Auctions. In my experience, the coins there often sell at auction for around 30-50% more for the same type/grade auctioned raw elsewhere. I believe this to be a combination of being a U.S. auction house(more desirable for domestic collectors), and that the coins on offer are majoritively slabbed. I find, I can get more 'bang for my buck' bidding/buying coins from other auction houses that deal in raw coins(such as CNG).</p><p><br /></p><p>As for grading.. To me, a TPG means nothing with ancient coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>It's pretty easy to discern the difference between a G, an F, a VF, an EF/XF, an AU and a MS coin. Sure one's gVF+(Ch) is another's aEF, much like an F sharp is the same as G flat.. but, it's all really one person's subjective opinion anyways. </p><p><br /></p><p>In my experience, NGC's (numbered) grades for ancients are all over the map. I presume that their grading system is based upon other same type coins in comparison -- There are situations when (IMO) a 4 is graded a 5, and others when a 5 ought to be graded a 3, based on previous NGC gradings.</p><p><br /></p><p>Look at enough coins, and it's pretty easy to discern what *Fine Style means, and when it applies to the devices of a coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>What matters for me is: Do I like the coin? What is its numismatic interest? Does it have eye appeal for me?</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not buying individual coins $1,000+. My coins are going to have some issues -- What some might refer to as 'character', or 'honest wear'. They were made by hand, and they're millennia old for Jeebus' sake. I expect them to look like it.</p><p><br /></p><p>In addition to circulation wear, my coins might be off-centered, weak strikes/old dies, encrustations/earthen deposits, scratches, corrosion/pitting, crystallization, cracks, in addition to many other so-called flan flaws.</p><p><br /></p><p>I will state that there is a certain level to where an ancient coin could be considered an investment. If we're talking about individual coins that value in the 10s of thousands of dollars. Rare type coins that could be considered FdC or Mint State* 5/5 5/5 to the nth degree(finest known to exist). It then might make sense to have the coin in a hard capsule to protect it from potential damage that could injure it from the near-perfect state that has endured for 1000s of years. That stated, the coin doesn't have to be permanently encased. It ought to still be able to be removeable, and made possible to be handled.</p><p><br /></p><p>As with anything, this is my own personal opinion on the matter. A collector is free to spend(or IMO overspend) extra on slabs for their collection to their own heart's desire. If slabs provide peace of mind for authenticity and/or confirmation of grade, then the extra premium for slabbing may be worth it. That's for the individual to decide for themselves.</p><p><br /></p><p>If/When I ever do buy a slabbed coin, it will be broken out. I don't want to have to explain to someone that I'm showing my coins to why all but a few of my coins are in slabs, and that they aren't any more special than my raw coins.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Herodotus, post: 8192294, member: 111387"]Let's be honest.. Ancient coins in slabs (on average)cost more. After all, one is paying for a coin and the slab(and what it implies/entails). I'd like to believe that I'm a savvy bargain-hunter. It's why I've yet to buy a slabbed coin. It's also one of the primary reasons, (despite looking at and bidding on quite a few), I've yet to win/buy any individual coins from Heritage Auctions. In my experience, the coins there often sell at auction for around 30-50% more for the same type/grade auctioned raw elsewhere. I believe this to be a combination of being a U.S. auction house(more desirable for domestic collectors), and that the coins on offer are majoritively slabbed. I find, I can get more 'bang for my buck' bidding/buying coins from other auction houses that deal in raw coins(such as CNG). As for grading.. To me, a TPG means nothing with ancient coins. It's pretty easy to discern the difference between a G, an F, a VF, an EF/XF, an AU and a MS coin. Sure one's gVF+(Ch) is another's aEF, much like an F sharp is the same as G flat.. but, it's all really one person's subjective opinion anyways. In my experience, NGC's (numbered) grades for ancients are all over the map. I presume that their grading system is based upon other same type coins in comparison -- There are situations when (IMO) a 4 is graded a 5, and others when a 5 ought to be graded a 3, based on previous NGC gradings. Look at enough coins, and it's pretty easy to discern what *Fine Style means, and when it applies to the devices of a coin. What matters for me is: Do I like the coin? What is its numismatic interest? Does it have eye appeal for me? I'm not buying individual coins $1,000+. My coins are going to have some issues -- What some might refer to as 'character', or 'honest wear'. They were made by hand, and they're millennia old for Jeebus' sake. I expect them to look like it. In addition to circulation wear, my coins might be off-centered, weak strikes/old dies, encrustations/earthen deposits, scratches, corrosion/pitting, crystallization, cracks, in addition to many other so-called flan flaws. I will state that there is a certain level to where an ancient coin could be considered an investment. If we're talking about individual coins that value in the 10s of thousands of dollars. Rare type coins that could be considered FdC or Mint State* 5/5 5/5 to the nth degree(finest known to exist). It then might make sense to have the coin in a hard capsule to protect it from potential damage that could injure it from the near-perfect state that has endured for 1000s of years. That stated, the coin doesn't have to be permanently encased. It ought to still be able to be removeable, and made possible to be handled. As with anything, this is my own personal opinion on the matter. A collector is free to spend(or IMO overspend) extra on slabs for their collection to their own heart's desire. If slabs provide peace of mind for authenticity and/or confirmation of grade, then the extra premium for slabbing may be worth it. That's for the individual to decide for themselves. If/When I ever do buy a slabbed coin, it will be broken out. I don't want to have to explain to someone that I'm showing my coins to why all but a few of my coins are in slabs, and that they aren't any more special than my raw coins.[/QUOTE]
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