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<p>[QUOTE="cladking, post: 782811, member: 68"]I'd agree it's essentially the same thing. There are two important differences however. Price changes can be difficult to measure. How much has the price of fish increased when they add 50% water and 1% chemical to make it retain more water? How much have meat prices really increased if beef triples and everyone is eating chicken. How much does the price of caviar affectr things if no one can afford or the market collapses. How about when things go out of style and aren't made at all. Inflation is very difficult to gauge even under the most stable of conditions but in real life can be impossible and the reported change manipulated. How do you include the value of a commodity like the Hoover Dam. What is the current value of real estate compared to some other time. How do you measure the value of all the silver if you don't even know how much silver there is. </p><p><br /></p><p>All these things are ultimately reflected in GDP and recessions and boom times are self correcting as money changes value. </p><p><br /></p><p>The other problem is perception. It is perception which forms the basis of the value of money. It might take little more than a calamity in CA or a freeze in FL affecting grocery prices to have a huge impact on perception of the value of money as curtailed supplies pushed up the price of a few key commodities. So long as everyone knows that money is the result of wealth and productivity then changing prices will have relatively little impact on perceptions. </p><p><br /></p><p>It is saved money that IS the basis of capitalism. Why shouldn't the owners of this profitn thereby. It is capital that IS the basis of employment. Why shouldn't those who support a sound economy be rewarded. If inflation continues too high too long capital will simply evaporate. As an example the Hungarian economy was worth more than four quadrillion Pengo at it's peak inflationary price. The exchange rate made the entire economy worth less than $30. If you could find the sellers and force them to sell you could have bought the country for $30. How do you raise capital for needed infrastructure and industry in such an enviroment? </p><p><br /></p><p>Capitalists, stakeholders, workers, and investors are supposed to be rewarded rather than only bankers and government.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cladking, post: 782811, member: 68"]I'd agree it's essentially the same thing. There are two important differences however. Price changes can be difficult to measure. How much has the price of fish increased when they add 50% water and 1% chemical to make it retain more water? How much have meat prices really increased if beef triples and everyone is eating chicken. How much does the price of caviar affectr things if no one can afford or the market collapses. How about when things go out of style and aren't made at all. Inflation is very difficult to gauge even under the most stable of conditions but in real life can be impossible and the reported change manipulated. How do you include the value of a commodity like the Hoover Dam. What is the current value of real estate compared to some other time. How do you measure the value of all the silver if you don't even know how much silver there is. All these things are ultimately reflected in GDP and recessions and boom times are self correcting as money changes value. The other problem is perception. It is perception which forms the basis of the value of money. It might take little more than a calamity in CA or a freeze in FL affecting grocery prices to have a huge impact on perception of the value of money as curtailed supplies pushed up the price of a few key commodities. So long as everyone knows that money is the result of wealth and productivity then changing prices will have relatively little impact on perceptions. It is saved money that IS the basis of capitalism. Why shouldn't the owners of this profitn thereby. It is capital that IS the basis of employment. Why shouldn't those who support a sound economy be rewarded. If inflation continues too high too long capital will simply evaporate. As an example the Hungarian economy was worth more than four quadrillion Pengo at it's peak inflationary price. The exchange rate made the entire economy worth less than $30. If you could find the sellers and force them to sell you could have bought the country for $30. How do you raise capital for needed infrastructure and industry in such an enviroment? Capitalists, stakeholders, workers, and investors are supposed to be rewarded rather than only bankers and government.[/QUOTE]
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