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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 2917014, member: 24314&quot;]SuperDave, posted &quot;...the fact that this is a very common phenomena with Morgans...&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER] is correct as Doug has misspoken in this quote: </p><p><br /></p><p>GDJMSP, posted:&nbsp; &quot;...they are without question scrapes that occurred not only long after the coin the was struck, but also after it was toned.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>jtlee321, is mostly correct: &quot;...it looks like the toning did not take due to a planchet flaw just below the surface that was exposed while being drawn through the draw bench.&nbsp; That white looks familiar, as I&#039;ve seen it on other Morgans.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>In the largest sense, a roller mark is a flaw in the planchet.&nbsp; However, this specific characteristic is simply called a &quot;roller mark.&quot;&nbsp; This imperfection was not completely obliterated when the coin was struck.&nbsp; Roller marks are caused by worn rollers or the draw bench.&nbsp; They do not happen due to &quot;a planchet flaw just below the surface.&quot;&nbsp; They are the flaw!&nbsp; There are many variables to consider but the deeper the marks go into the planchet, the more likely they will not be struck out.&nbsp; One very important characteristic in the image is the interior of the marks.&nbsp; It is dull.&nbsp; That&#039;s the same color we see on weak strikes.&nbsp; Some long-time grading instructors call this &quot;weak strike luster.&quot;&nbsp; When you examine a coin and see this &quot;matte color&quot; inside a &quot;scratch-like&quot; mark, it is NOT PMD.&nbsp; The area inside the mark did not tone because its surface is not as susceptible to tone as the struck portions of the surface.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=1892]@SuperDave[/USER] continues:&nbsp; This one <i>is</i> a candidate for removal of the toning, with the proper technique. That technique probably shouldn&#039;t be <i>only</i> thiourea, given the thickness of the toning at the periphery. I know <b>how</b> I&#039;d do it if the coin were mine, but I don&#039;t know <b>if</b> I&#039;d do it. This is a 4-figure coin in 65, with a good shot at 65, and I&#039;d probably not risk that upside by removing the color. It doesn&#039;t always come out right even if you do it right.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>He saved me a lot of posting.&nbsp; DON&#039;T TOUCH THE COIN!&nbsp; I love it. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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