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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 874667, member: 112"]If you mean longer history, yes. Because they have a longer history. People are always resistant to change. But as changes come a few recognize the better aspects the change brings and accept it. Over time, more people accept the change. It's a gradual process. But when you have new people entering a hobby, and they have not experienced the old ways, it's easier for them to accpept the new and better ways because they have no bias from being exposed to the old ways over many years. Not in the least. The TPGs have done more good and been of more benefit to this hobby than other thing in the history of the hobby. Europe would be better off if they had TPGs and accpeted them just like we do. As for harshly cleaning coins, I was first warned of the dangers of harsh cleaning 50 years ago. Even back then there was a wide segment of the collecting public that saw the dangers, saw the damage that harsh cleaning does to coins and tried to get others to see it. But as I said above, change takes time. Yeah, they were just coins. And that's why today 80% or more of the coins out there are problem coins. Because people were too blind to see what harsh cleaning does to them. Coins are just like anything else. You would no more take a scrub brush and clean the Mona Lisa than you would set it on fire. Or take a piece of sandpaper to a Loius XIIII piece of furniture. Sometimes things need conserved, of that there is no doubt. But there is a right way and wrong way to go about doing that conservation so that you avoid damaging the originality. But coins are somewhat unique in that people tend to think bright & shiny somehow looks better. So they think a harshly cleaned coin must be better than an old looking one with natural patina. Eventually, they will learn.[/QUOTE]

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