To CAC or not to CAC - official game thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. Sunflower_Coins

    Sunflower_Coins Importer and Exporter

    I like it, but I think it got no bean.
     
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  3. ddddd

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  4. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Green sticker for the half, simply because it doesn't seem to be a C coin for a bust half in XF45. Of course, I'm probably just best off with "heads is bean, tails is no bean" the way I've been calling these.
     
  5. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Green bean for the half.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Yes on the bean. Pretty coin.
     
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Time for the reveal!

    This Bust Half does not currently have a CAC sticker, and I'm not sure if it was ever submitted. I think this falls into "unknown status but deserves a sticker."

    I've always wondered because I bought a very similar 1829 from the same seller at the same time, and it does have a CAC bean.
     
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  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary

    Rd. 1: 1921 MS 65 Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 2: 1835 AU 50 Green CAC 50c--> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

    Rd. 3: 1939-S Oregon MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 (8 Green and 2 Gold) vs No: 0

    Rd. 4: 1838 AU 58 Green CAC (Gold $5)--> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 5: 1908 MS 63 Green CAC (Gold $20)—> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

    Rd. 6: 1885-CC MS 63 PL Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 8 vs No: 1

    Rd. 7: 1946-S MS 66 Green CAC Walker 50c--> Yes: 7 (6 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

    Rd. 8: 1885-S MS 62 NOT CAC Morgan--> Yes: 5 (4 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

    Rd. 9: 1830 EF 45 UNKNOWN CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

    Green CAC on coin and deserves it: 4
    Green CAC on coin and doesn't deserve it: 2
    Gold CAC on coin and deserves it:
    Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green: 1
    Gold CAC on coin but should not sticker:
    Failed to sticker but deserves a sticker: 1
    Failed to sticker and should not sticker:
    Unknown sticker status and deserves a sticker:1
    Unknown sticker status and does not deserve a sticker:


    Note: if we don’t know the status of a coin before the reveal and more people say green CAC for a gold CAC coin, then it will go in the area of “Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green” ....see round 3 as the example case
     
  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    @CircCam if you're ready go ahead and post yours and then we will circle back around to @Mainebill
     
  11. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

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    MS65BN
     
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  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Yes for Green for me
     
  13. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    This IHC is a tough one. I think it is a solid 65 with some original mint luster. Even with that I probably wouldn't give it a green bean.
     
  14. Coinsandmedals

    Coinsandmedals Well-Known Member

    Overall it is an attractive coin that seems solid for the grade. I would give it a green bean.
     
  15. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    Unless the luster is hidden by the photo I vote No Bean.
     
  16. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Seems like there's a pretty big hit on the cheekbone for a 65, or I'm just misreading the photo. I'd probably GTG 65 on this one, but no bean.
     
  17. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I’m going to say yes on the ihc. Sorry I’ve been on the road
     
  18. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    The above coin hasn’t been submitted.

    In my experience, CAC errs on the side of caution with color on Indian Head Cents. Rightly so as MS70 treatment can yield a variety of colors on these. This coin for example was submitted to CAC and as expected did not receive a bean despite being technically strong for the grade (MS64BN)
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    IMO, stick to traditional RD, RB, and BN looks to maximize chances on IHC’s at CAC. While not nearly as questionable as my 1900, in my opinion the 1899 would likely fail based on the unusual color alone.

    @Mainebill - Back to you, sir.
     
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  19. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    1899 1c Pcgs MS65 BN. - yes CAC green
     
  20. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator


    On the blown up photos, I see something around the numeral "1" in the date. Kind of a greenish tinge, or halo effect. I think you sold the coin, but I am curious what that spot looks like in hand, or if you had noticed it? Toning, or something worse? Or nothing at all?

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    I am wondering if that had an effect on the coin not stickering.
     
  21. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

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