To CAC or not to CAC - official game thread

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ddddd, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I love the quarter. Pretty coin.
    Please put me in line for the next coin.
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    It looks like you are up next after this quarter is revealed.
    (I went back and looked but anyone feel free to correct me if I missed your turn)
     
  4. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    +1 and my thoughts exactly. A lovely coin that definitely warrants a “who cares” if it didn’t CAC, but if I had to guess I would guess no as the toning implies a dip and then placement in an album.
     
  5. jom

    jom Well-Known Member

    OK, here goes. The coin FAILED at CAC. I did speak to JA about it and he mentioned that there was rubbing on the knee of liberty. Something that I did not agree with. Of course, you could add the scratch near the head as something as well but it is not something JA mentioned. IMO, the coin could have been dipped but it was no way noticeable since there was a lot of luster. The dipped and re-toned thing with CAC is almost always for circulated coins.

    In my lame opinion the coin was a solid MS65. But...even if it wasn't it was one of those (as mentioned) "who cares" coins.

    jom
     
    ddddd and wxcoin like this.
  6. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    No to CAC on 1920 quarter - Not surprised his decision. My taste is more towards brilliant vs toned anyhow.

    I agree with him about liberty’s knee don’t like what I see. A toner hobbyist may jump on the coin irregardless of that. Eye appeal may rule the day.

    However if it will sell on bourse moot issue. CPG about $510. You could try listing it on the bay bin / make offer. The dark toning will get worse as time goes on.
     
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2020
  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary

    Rd. 1: 1921 MS 65 Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 2: 1835 AU 50 Green CAC 50c--> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

    Rd. 3: 1939-S Oregon MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 (8 Green and 2 Gold) vs No: 0

    Rd. 4: 1838 AU 58 Green CAC (Gold $5)--> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 5: 1908 MS 63 Green CAC (Gold $20)—> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

    Rd. 6: 1885-CC MS 63 PL Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 8 vs No: 1

    Rd. 7: 1946-S MS 66 Green CAC Walker 50c--> Yes: 7 (6 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

    Rd. 8: 1885-S MS 62 NOT CAC Morgan--> Yes: 5 (4 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

    Rd. 9: 1830 EF 45 UNKNOWN CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

    Rd. 10*: 1899 MS 65 BN UNKNOWN CAC 1c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 5

    Rd. 11: 1942 MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 4 (4 Green and 0 Gold) vs No: 2

    Rd. 12: 1940-D MS 67 Star UNKNOWN CAC 10c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 4

    Rd. 13*: 1884-O MS 61 Gold CAC $1--> Yes: 9 (4 Green and 5 Gold) vs No: 0

    Rd. 14: 1827 AU 55 CAC 10c--> Yes: 1 vs No: 7

    Rd. 15: 1851 MS 66 CAC 1c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 4

    Rd. 16: 1919-S MS 65 Green CAC 10c--> Yes: 12 (11 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 0

    Rd. 17: 1922 MS 65 NOT CAC Peace $1--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

    Rd. 18: 1851 Au 58+ CAC 1/2C--> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

    Rd. 19: 1839-O AU 53 NO CAC 50c--> Yes: 6 (5 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 3

    Rd. 20: 1920 MS 65 NO CAC 25c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

    Green CAC on coin and deserves it: 6
    Green CAC on coin and doesn't deserve it: 4
    Gold CAC on coin and deserves it: 1
    Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green: 2
    Gold CAC on coin but should not sticker:
    Failed to sticker but deserves a sticker: 3
    Failed to sticker and should not sticker: 1
    Unknown sticker status and deserves a sticker:1
    Unknown sticker status and does not deserve a sticker:2


    Note: if we don’t know the status of a coin before the reveal and more people say green CAC for a gold CAC coin, then it will go in the area of “Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green” ....see round 3 as the example case

    *
    Rd. 10 was 4-4...I interpreted that CircCam would consider it a no (based on a similar example), which swayed the overall vote to a lean towards no.
    Rd. 13 was tied between green and gold at 4-4...I interpreted that geekpryde would consider it a gold
     
  8. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Interesting that it was something not really mentioned by anyone here (likely can only be seen in hand). I agree with your thinking and see it as a solid coin.

    @ldhair you are up next...
     
  9. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Sorry I'm slow.
    NGC PF64
    11.jpg 12.jpg halfdime_1862.jpg
     
  10. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    The proof looks nearly cameo. I was trying to figure out if it has been cleaned but am leaning against that so should it get no bean, green bean, gold bean? I could definitely see a green bean and wouldn't be shocked if it got a gold bean. So green bean it is.
     
  11. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Green bean for a rock solid grade.
     
  12. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Proofs are harder to judge. One of the photos makes it look like there might be too many hairlines for the 64 grade, but the others seem fine.
    I'll guess it is solid and the color helps too,
    so I will say GREEN CAC
     
  13. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Couldn’t agree more. I’m very surprised it didn’t go cam. Green cac
     
  14. Derek2200

    Derek2200 Well-Known Member

    Ngc PF 64 half 10c - yes to Green Cac. Beautiful coin.
     
  15. jom

    jom Well-Known Member

    I see hairlines in the fields with the bottom left photo. Could be die polishing though. I haven't a clue. This is the main reason I've never cared for proof coins as even acceptable things (like die polish) make it "look" like hairlines. I'll go out on a limb and say no CAC.

    jom
     
  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It got the bean. Not enough to make Cam.
    10.jpg
     
  17. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    ddddd likes this.
  18. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary

    Rd. 1: 1921 MS 65 Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 2: 1835 AU 50 Green CAC 50c--> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

    Rd. 3: 1939-S Oregon MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 (8 Green and 2 Gold) vs No: 0

    Rd. 4: 1838 AU 58 Green CAC (Gold $5)--> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 5: 1908 MS 63 Green CAC (Gold $20)—> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

    Rd. 6: 1885-CC MS 63 PL Green CAC Morgan--> Yes: 8 vs No: 1

    Rd. 7: 1946-S MS 66 Green CAC Walker 50c--> Yes: 7 (6 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

    Rd. 8: 1885-S MS 62 NOT CAC Morgan--> Yes: 5 (4 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 1

    Rd. 9: 1830 EF 45 UNKNOWN CAC 50c--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

    Rd. 10*: 1899 MS 65 BN UNKNOWN CAC 1c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 5

    Rd. 11: 1942 MS 65 Gold CAC 50c--> Yes: 4 (4 Green and 0 Gold) vs No: 2

    Rd. 12: 1940-D MS 67 Star UNKNOWN CAC 10c--> Yes: 3 vs No: 4

    Rd. 13*: 1884-O MS 61 Gold CAC $1--> Yes: 9 (4 Green and 5 Gold) vs No: 0

    Rd. 14: 1827 AU 55 CAC 10c--> Yes: 1 vs No: 7

    Rd. 15: 1851 MS 66 CAC 1c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 4

    Rd. 16: 1919-S MS 65 Green CAC 10c--> Yes: 12 (11 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 0

    Rd. 17: 1922 MS 65 NOT CAC Peace $1--> Yes: 10 vs No: 1

    Rd. 18: 1851 Au 58+ CAC 1/2C--> Yes: 0 vs No: 6

    Rd. 19: 1839-O AU 53 NO CAC 50c--> Yes: 6 (5 Green and 1 Gold) vs No: 3

    Rd. 20: 1920 MS 65 NO CAC 25c--> Yes: 4 vs No: 6

    Rd. 21: 1862 PF 64 CAC H10c--> Yes: 5 vs No: 1

    Green CAC on coin and deserves it: 7
    Green CAC on coin and doesn't deserve it: 4
    Gold CAC on coin and deserves it: 1
    Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green: 2
    Gold CAC on coin but should not sticker:
    Failed to sticker but deserves a sticker: 3
    Failed to sticker and should not sticker: 1
    Unknown sticker status and deserves a sticker:1
    Unknown sticker status and does not deserve a sticker:2


    Note: if we don’t know the status of a coin before the reveal and more people say green CAC for a gold CAC coin, then it will go in the area of “Gold CAC on coin but should only be Green” ....see round 3 as the example case

    *
    Rd. 10 was 4-4...I interpreted that CircCam would consider it a no (based on a similar example), which swayed the overall vote to a lean towards no.
    Rd. 13 was tied between green and gold at 4-4...I interpreted that geekpryde would consider it a gold
     
  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Floor is open....
     
  20. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    F28002E6-1941-4C99-B029-298CA0C048BE.jpeg Ok here’s another proof dime. I’ve posted this before. So if you know Ngc proof 63 old holder
     
  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I'll say yes again to GREEN CAC
    Looks attractive from what I can see.
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page