Tiny masterpieces/Great things in small currencies

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  1. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Geez, Ryro, you're making me regret putting the one you mention up for sale! :inpain:

    Some of my faves, in descending order of size:

    Mytilene, Lesbos; EL hemihekte, 10.5mm 2.55g:
    mytilene hemihekte.JPG

    Mysia: Cyzicus (525-475 BCE) obol, 10mm 0.84g:
    cyzicus obol.jpg

    Pisidia: Selge (300-190 BCE) obol, 10mm 0.78g
    selge obol.jpg

    Cilicia: Tarsos (389-375 BCE) obol, 9mm 0.72g:
    tarsos knucklbones.jpg


    Persian Empire: Darius I to Xerxes I (505-480 BCE) 1/12 siglos, 8mm 0.48g:
    1:12 siglos.jpg

    Caria: Kasolaba (400-340 BC) hemiobol, 8mm 0.43g:
    kasolaba hemiobol.jpg

    Lampsakos, c. 400 BCE tetartemorion, 6.5mm 0.18g:
    lampsakos tetartemorion.jpg

    Thraco-Macedonian tribes, 5th c. BCE tetartemorion, 6mm 0.23g:
    thraco-macedonian tetartemorion.jpg


    Magnesia ad Maeandrum under Themistokles (465-459 BCE) tetartemorion, 5.5mm 0.21g:
    themistokles hemiobol.jpg
     
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  3. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Love the Katane litra but that Bes freakin awesome!


    Taras, Calabria AR Triartemorion. 10mm, 0.43gm.
    taras.jpg

    Caria, Kasolaba. Hemiobol. 7mm., 0.55g.
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Dinky Gold

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    Carthage - Zeugitana
    AV 1/10th Stater-Shekel
    350-320 BCE
    0.94g 7.5mm
    Palm-
    Horse Head
    SNG COP 132
     
  5. Tigermoth1

    Tigermoth1 Active Member


    Hi again, after reading your last post (and admiring it so), I thought you might provide some background on the following:

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  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I'm sure @JayAg47 can provide more detail, but I have a similar coin which is a "Viraraya" fanam from Sri Lanka (or the Malabar coast?) c. 1600-1800:
    4.180.jpg
    Apparently the obverse depicts a lion with a crescent above (more apparent on yours), and the reverse is a boar.
     
  7. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    Afaik these Viraraya fanams came from the kingdom of Travancore (Malabar coast).
    https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces39364.html
     
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  8. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    The comments section on the page you link says "Though the Viraraya fanams (KM29 silver and KM30 gold) are listed under Travancore they were issued by rulers in Ceylon. They were probably found in Travancore because they are close to each other geographically and coins might have been used in trade." Or maybe they were produced in both places?
     
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  9. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I'm not huge on tiny coins, but my smallest Greek bronze is this little 12mm of Adramyteion.
    The artistry on such a small coin is astounding. There's no way magnification of some sort wasn't used for these coins.
    Mysia, Adramyteion SNG France 2.JPG



    I also have a gorgeous Corinthian AE12 with pegasus and elaborate trident. Great example of a 5/5 strike with 0/5 surfaces.
    Corinth AE12.JPG
     
  10. JayAg47

    JayAg47 Well-Known Member

    I see the confusion, so here is my take on this coin, I believe it was issued by the Travancore kingdom, because by 1800s Sri Lanka, aka Ceylon was fully under the control of the British, who issued Sri Lankan rupees portraying Victoria, and even in the 1700s, Ceylon was under the control of the Dutch, who issued Duit.
    However the kingdom of Travancore was an independent principality who issued own coins, Travancore is a place where they mostly worship Vishnu, known as Vaishnavites, and one of his icons is his feet! the obverse of the coin features a stylised form of Vishnu's feet, with a religious symbol above, whereas Ceylon have Buddhists and Siva following Hindus known as Shaivites. In the Numista description they've mentioned stylised lion, which is wrong.
    My post on this iconography https://www.cointalk.com/threads/battle-of-kandalur-salai.381498/
    Although the coin would've been issued in the Malabar coast, nothing is stopping people from taking it to Ceylon for trading and stuffs!
     
  11. ambr0zie

    ambr0zie Dacian Taraboste

    Small bronzes I have:
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    Aiolis. Myrina circa 400-300 BC. Bronze Æ 10 mm., 0,69 g.
    Helmeted head of Athena right
    Amphora "MY-PI"
    SNG Cop 216-220; SNG Munich 570

    upload_2021-7-2_9-39-8.png

    Seleukid Kingdom. Sardeis. Antiochos III Megas 223-187 BC. Bronze Æ 12 mm., 1,96 g.
    http://numismatics.org/sco/id/sc.1.981
    Obv - Laureate head of Apollo right, with spiral curls
    Rev - Legend: BAΣΙΛΕΩΣ ANTIOXOY (vertical left and right), monogram
    above elephant
    upload_2021-7-2_9-39-59.png
    Type: Elephant standing left

    upload_2021-7-2_9-40-48.png


    Seleukid Kingdom. Sardeis. Antiochos I Soter 281-261 BC. Bronze Æ 13 mm., 2,62 g
    Athena facing, wearing triple-crested Attic helmet; reverse Nike walking left, raising wreath in right hand, long palm frond over left shoulder in left hand, BAΣIΛEΩΣ (king) downward on right, ANTIOXOY downward on right, symbol in circle outer left (control), no control right

    upload_2021-7-2_9-43-5.png

    Aiolis. Kyme circa 350-320 BC.
    Bronze Æ
    11 mm., 1,19 g.
    Kyme, Aeolis, c. 350-250 BC. AE 10mm; 1.05g. Eagle standing right / K-Y to left and right of cup with one handle. BMC 16-20; SNG von Aulock 1625; SNG Newcastle SNGuk_1301_0449.

    upload_2021-7-2_9-43-50.png


    Bronze Æ 11 mm., 1,68 g.
    CARIA. Mylasa. Ae (Circa 210-30 BC). Obv: Forepart of horse right. Rev: MYΛΑΣΕΩΝ. Ornate trident head. SNG Keckman 225.
     

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  12. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Thanks for the clarification - very interesting!
     
  13. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Some of my favorites under 10mm...

    BRUTTIUM Rhegion - AR Litra Hare ex Clain 3982.JPG
    BRUTTIUM, Rhegion
    AR Litra. 0.57g, 9.2mm. BRUTTIUM, Rhegion, circa 480-462 BC. Anaxilas, tyrant. SNG Cop 1926; HGC 1, 1649 (R1); Sear Greek 497 (as obol). O: Hare leaping right. R: REC (retrograde).
    Ex E.E. Clain-Stefanelli Collection

    Thessaly Pherai - Hemiobol Dog.jpg THESSALY, Pherai
    AR Hemiobol. 0.27g, 8.3mm. THESSALY, Pherai, circa 360s-350s BC. BCD Thessaly II 694; HGC 4, 563; Imhoof-Blumer 1908, p. 93, 277, pl. VI, 38; cf. Nomos 4, 1306 corr. O: Head of Ennodia right: R: Φ - E, hunting dog sitting right.
    Ex BCD Collection

    Aegina - Hemiobol.jpg
    ATTICA, Aegina
    AR Hemiobol. 0.52g, 7mm. ATTICA, Aegina, circa 480-457 BC. SNG Cop 512-3; HGC 6, 453; SNG Delepierre 1521. O: Cutest little sea turtle ever. R: Large square incuse with skew pattern.
    Ex E.E. Clain-Stefanelli Collection

    Shot of it swimming alongside full-size mama stater:

    Aegina - Hemiobol with Stater.jpg

    And the smallest one I have, with a perspective shot of it below next to a grain of rice.

    Ionia Teos Tetartemorion.jpg
    IONIA, Teos
    AR Tetartemorion. 0.14g, 4.7mm. IONIA, Teos, circa 540-478 BC. Cf. CNG 63, lot 506. O: Head of griffin left. R: Quadripartite incuse square with raised central pellet.

    Ionia Teos Tetartemorion with rice grain.jpg
     
  14. Kavax

    Kavax Well-Known Member

    I'm also a big fan of tiny silver fractions

    My smallest : an onkia of Syracuse 0.06g with a pellet as a mark of value

    Onkia Syracuse 1.jpg
    OnkiaSyracuse.jpg

    Rhegion Litra 0.8g
    Kroisos 1/12th of stater 0.7g
    Syracuse Litra 0.8g

    frac210.jpg

    Naxos Hexas 0.15g
    Samians in Zancle tetartemorion 0.13g
    Katane Hexas 0.12g

    Frac300.jpg
     
  15. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I was photographing and appreciating my tiny coin:

    SG4908bCariaMylasa0969.jpg

    5 mm. 0.16 grams.
    Caria, city of Mylassa. 420-390 BC.
    Lion's head left.
    Bird standing left (parts are weak), two dots in field
    SNG Turkey I Konuk 941 (0.22 grams), Klein --, SNG von Aulock --, Sear Greek -- but belongs near 4819.

    Then I thought of posting it. So I searched CT on "tiny coin" and found this thread. I see others have already posted the same type. Here is one more photo just in case the size of 5 mm does not mean much to you:

    SG4908bCariaMylasa0909wcent.jpg

    That's small! Get out your magnifying glass!
     
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  16. svessien

    svessien Senior Member

    I bought two small Greeks this summer:

    Troas obol.jpg

    Troas, Abydos. AR Obol, ca 480-450 BC.

    Obverse: Facing gorgoneion, tongue protruding

    Reverse: Eagle standing left; monogram T above.

    Reference: BMC 13, GCV 4004

    Weight :0.7g Diameter: 9mm Conservation: Very fine.

    Troas hemiobol.jpg

    Troas, Kebren. AR Tritartemorion, ca 480-450 BC.

    Obverse: Forepart of ram right.

    Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square

    Reference: SNG Copenhagen 257-258, GCV 4063

    Weight :0.5g Diameter: 7mm Conservation: Very fine.
     
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  17. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    These all look large compared to some of the coins in this thread.
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    Thrace, Black Sea Coast, Istros, Trihemiobol or 1/4 Drachm (1.20g, 9mm), circa 313-280 BCE Obv: Facing male heads, the right inverted. Rev: ΙΣΤΡΙΗ, sea eagle right, grasping dolphin with talons; monogram (AΓ or AΠ? magistrate or control mark?) below dolphin.
    Notes: "Good things come in small packages III"
    Ionia Magnesia ad Maeander.jpg
    Ionia, Magnḗsĭa ad Mæándrum, circa 400 BC, Æ 9.3mm (0.48 g, 12h), Rare - especially in this condition
    Obv: Laureate head of Apollo left
    Rev: M-A, Cuirass between
    Ref: SNG Kayhan 393
    Notes: "Good things come in small packages II"
    upload_2021-8-23_21-12-52.png
    Sicily, Akragas (Agrigentum), circa 450-440 BC, AR litra, (10 mm, 0.56g, 3h). Obv: ΑΚ - RΑ, eagle, with closed wings, standing left on Ionic column capital with large volutes, dots at center of volutes
    Rev: ΛΙ Crab
    Ref: HGC 2, 121. Westermark 455-504 (dies appear to be O21/R20 see image below)
    Notes: "Good things come in small packages I"
     
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  18. Herodotus

    Herodotus Well-Known Member

    I need to get around to taking proper pictures of my smallest coins. It's a tough go. They come out really grainy.

    This one is the teeniest coming in around a whopping 1/8th of a gram. Not sure on a proper ID.
    Tetartemorion.jpg
    ASIA MINOR. Uncertain. AR Tetartemorion. (Circa 5th century BC). (5mm .13g).
    O: Head of bull right.
    R: Star of four rays, with pellet at center; all within incuse square.
     
  19. Carl Wilmont

    Carl Wilmont Well-Known Member

    Here's the smallest denomination of Greek silver coinage, the hemitetartemorion. You'd need to save up 48 of these to exchange them for a single drachm.

    upload_2021-8-23_21-55-51.png

    IONIA. Uncertain. Circa 520-480 BC. Hemitetartemorion (Silver, 4 mm, 0.10 g). Rosette on raised disk. Rev. Cruciform incuse with pellet in center and in each arm.
     
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  20. Ignoramus Maximus

    Ignoramus Maximus Nomen non est omen.

    Since this thread has been kissed back to life again: here's a bearded Herakles I like.

    1266226_1593782866 (1).jpg

    Given the condition of my eyes, I should focus on tetradrachms, not tiny fractions...:D
     
  21. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    My newest tiny coin is this tetartemorion of Hekatomnos of Mylasa, satrap of Caria (c. 395-397 BCE). It's 5.5mm and 0.24g. The obverse lion has problems, but I thought the tiny portrait of Apollo on the reverse was pretty amazing. It's great in hand! Still need to take my own photo.

    Screen Shot 2021-08-24 at 12.21.38 PM.jpg

    I love that tiny gorgon, @svessien, and that cuirass is fantastic, @Sulla80!
     
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