Tiny dichalkous of Antioch

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ryan McVay, Feb 13, 2024.

  1. Ryan McVay

    Ryan McVay Well-Known Member

    I recently acquired this little gem of a coin from Antioch. This type (McAlee 168) is under dispute in McAlee's book with him saying "These [c 10mm diameter, undated) may be official issues (struck during the late second century or early third century?) or they may be unofficial issues or imitations struck during the first or second century." McAlee, p86. This is by far the nicest example of this rare type that I have come across. This does include the ET and an officina mark A (or Delta) on the reverse. McAlee's example and the reverse description says "No legend(?)"
    While looking for other examples I found several in acsearch that were "similar" but weighed even less. It would be a good study to look at these "series" of coins.
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    This is 1.24g, 11mm. I can't tell if this is orichalum or standard AE bronze. As always, any other insight or examples of these smaller coins is greatly appreciated!
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice little bronze.
  4. The Meat man

    The Meat man Supporter! Supporter

    That's a very nice, well-struck example!
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I would say bronze, has the look of similar bronze from the area.

    I would agree scarce, I do not recall seeing this type before.
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  6. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    Even more so! McAlee rates it "Very Rare".

    Indeed! From my scouting around online it may very well fall in the category of "best known example". Nice catch! I love the reverse in particular. The lyre even still shows the detailed, tell-tale 'bumps' that indicate it is intended to portray a lyre made of tortoise-shell.
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  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

  8. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    Uhhh... yeh... there's that.
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  9. Ryan McVay

    Ryan McVay Well-Known Member

    I'm not worried about the patina on this coin. A dap of spit and a quick few views with the computer microscope and the surfaces still look nice to me. Any objections? BTW the color is a bit off. It is more of sawdust brown/orange than tanned leather orange you see. Sorry about that.
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  10. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    I don't have McAlee's book. Is the type below discussed? The claim is that it is of Antioch, but I don't see it in RPC online.

    SYRIA, Antioch? Imperial Times, I-II Century AD? AE14 (2.00 gm).
    Obv: ...NITOIN (blundered ANTIOXEWN?); Laureate head of Apollo?
    Rev: ? A; Lyre. aVF, earthy black patina.
    Ref: Lindgren and Kovacs, 1949 var; SNG Copenhagen Syria #125.
    ex Agora Auctions, Auction 36, May 2015, lot 126 (unsold)
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  11. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    I was unable to find a match in the reference or the 2 supplements. Nor did I see any further discussion beyond what is included in the O.P. post that may apply.
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  12. Ryan McVay

    Ryan McVay Well-Known Member

    These are similar coins and dies. The styles are all similar and the weights range from 0.87-1.78g.
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