Time Travel Barter Game

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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    OK, @Bradley Trotter. Since you’re there on a Friday afternoon and not many folks are around, let’s say for the sake of argument that an employee of the Mint, (who is in an indulgent mood and really just wants you out of there so he can go home) says you may buy eight cents worth of sparkling new 1865 proof coins for your well-worn dime. What’ll you choose?
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    I would go back to Salt Lake City, Utah and bring bags of gold dust to exchange for Mormon gold coins. These gold coins are very rare.

    16. Mormon Gold Coins

    Story behind the Mormon gold coins -
    The gold coin Mormon were minted in the issues of 1849, 1850, and 1860. Gold Mormon coins are some of the most unusual and most collected non-US issued gold coins available to collectors today. Values for gold Mormon coins can be as little as a few thousand dollars to as much as mid-five figures.

    The Gold Mormon Coin History according to http://goldmormoncoins.com/:
    The story of Mormon gold begins in 1848, just like so many other American gold stories have begun. Mormon veterans of the Mexican War were part of the original discoverers of gold at Sutter’s Mill in California in 1848. However, these same men took the gold they could find in California and brought it to the Great Salt Lake Valley. This extra medium of exchange was welcomed and it was quickly decided that the gold dust should be converted into coins in order to not waste the dust lost in daily transactions.
    The first gold Mormon coin entered circulation on December 12, 1848. Interestingly, these first coins actually sold at a 5% premium. Only 46 gold coins were minted in 1848 due to die breakages. It wasn’t until September 1849 that the gold coins were again issued. The first series of Mormon gold coins were pure gold and did not last very long in circulation. Later gold coins were alloyed with some silver in order to increase the durability of the coin.
    There is no evidence that any Mormon gold coins were minted after June 19, 1851. This means that all the gold coins marked 1849 and even 1850, could have been minted at any time between late 1848 and mid-1851. All told, it is estimated that $70,000 worth of Mormon gold coins went into circulation. If you assume all denominations were printed in equal quantities, then about 7,500 Mormon gold coins were minted. Based on known survival percentages, it would appear that the two lower denominations were either minted in greater quantities, or they were just easier to save.
    As stated above, gold Mormon coins were minted to help alleviate the lack of a reliable medium of exchange in an isolated part of the world. Mormon gold was shipped to places like New York and Baltimore on the east coast to secure goods needed back in the territory. It is easy to think that a trader in a major city could have put aside a strange coin from a faraway place as a keepsake from a profitable transaction. Surely some high grade Mormon gold coins were saved purely because of their curiosity factor.
    Today it is thought that around 300 gold Mormon coins are held by collectors. New discoveries in the field of Mormon coinage are always happening and always exciting.

    More Info About Gold Mormon Coins:
    Today the LDS has all the original gold coin dies
    Gold Mormon Coins were re-struck and today there are many more replicas than authentic coins When dealing with gold Mormon coins, 99% of the time you are going to see modern reproductions. It's sad but true.

    Fake Mormon coins are being produced as you are reading this. These modern reproductions will not fool a seasoned collector or dealer. However, if you have never seen a genuine Mormon gold coin before, then you might have some trouble spotting a fake.

    Generally speaking, fake gold Mormon coins won't have many details and they will be very shiny. The fake coins are made of a cheap alloy that really doesn't even look like gold.

    These modern reproductions are worth a few bucks due to their curiosity factor. They are not collectible though.


    According to this site http://goldmormoncoins.com/, The important People Involved In The Gold Coin Production Process were:
    Willard Richards, Brigham Young, John Taylor, John Kay, Robert Campbell, Martin Peck, William Clayton, Thomas Bullock


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    PCGS graded MS61 Mormon gold coin. Hard to believe that this one coin has never been touched by human hands.

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    This NGC graded coin AU53 shown is for sale $49,500 from one collector. There is an 1860 NGC AU55 gold coin which is also listed for $49,500 for those of you who are comparing prices for your next purchase.

    The 1849 $2.5 dollar gold coin is the smallest denomination coin minted for the six coin series. The 1849 two and a half dollar coin was the lowest denomination and it wouldn't have been especially painful for most people of the time to hold onto one as a keepsake. On one side of the 1849 coin you will find the phrase 'HOLINESS TO THE LORD' encircling the emblem of Priesthood--a three-point Phrygian crown (aka hat) over the all-seeing eye of Jehovah; on the reverse encircling clasped hands, the emblem of friendship, should occur the words "G. S. L. C. P. G." and the denomination of the coin. The abbreviation is short for Great Salt Lake City Pure Gold. It is currently thought that about 75 1849 two and a half dollar gold Mormon coins are held by collectors and dealers. The coin tends to come in very high grade and attractive grades.


    The 1849 five dollar gold coin is one of the more common Mormon coins from the entire six coin series. On one side of the 1849 five dollar coin you will find the phrase 'HOLINESS TO THE LORD' encircling the emblem of Priesthood--a three-point Phrygian crown over the all-seeing eye of Jehovah. On the reverse of the coin encircling clasped hands (the emblem of friendship), should occur the words "G.S.L.C.P.G" and "Five Dollars". This states that the coin is made of five dollars worth of pure gold. It is currently thought that about 75 1849 five dollar gold Mormon coins are held by collectors and dealers. The coin tends to come in very high grade and attractive grades.


    The 1849 ten dollar gold coin is very rare and valuable. Like all 1849 gold Mormon coins, the ten dollar denomination features an open eye and a hat like form on the obverse. (The hat is actually a crown). The central image is surrounded by "Holiness To The Lord." The reverse of the 1849 ten dollar gold Mormon coin shows two hands clasped. The date of 1849 is below the shaking hands image. "Pure Gold" and "Ten Dollars" is also written around the hands. This is the only 1849 coin that does not say "GSLCPG." It is currently thought that only about fifteen 1849 ten dollar Mormon coins are held by collectors and dealers. This limited supply means that these coins are valuable.


    The 1849 twenty dollar gold coin is the highest denomination coin minted for the entire Mormon gold issue. The twenty dollar gold Mormon coin is not only an important denomination to the Mormon series, but this coin is in fact the first twenty dollar gold piece minted for circulation use in the entire United States. The Mormon twenty was issued three months before the federal 1849 $20, and a full year before the 1850 double eagle. It is thought that around one thousand 1849 twenty dollar gold Mormon coins entered circulation. The gold used for the issue was low quality and the twenty dollar gold coin had almost three dollars less gold in it than it should. This fact meant that the coin was a bit of a hot-potato to a very precious metal aware society. Today there are somewhere around fifteen 1849 $20 gold Mormon coins known to exist. Most of the survivors are well used and not exactly show pieces compared to the two lowest denomination coins which were much easier to save. The 1849 twenty dollar Mormon coin has a similar design to other 1849 Mormon coins. There are two clasped hands, an all seeing eye, and a three pointed hat. "To The Lord Holiness", "GSLCPG", and "Twenty Dollars" are all written out on the coin.


    The 1850 five dollar gold coin is very similar but also very different from the 1849 coin. The reverse of the 1850 $5 gold coin features two hands clasped and supposedly shaking. Underneath the hands is the year 1850 and Five Dollars. Above the hands is the abbreviation "G. S. L. C. P. G." This stands for Great Salt Lake City, Pure Gold. All of this is exactly the same as the 1849 five dollar coin. The obverse of the 1850 five dollar gold mormon coin is different from the same 1849 reverse. The 1850 reverse has nine stars. The hat/crown above the eye is also different; the 1850 crown has three points. There is also a halo or circle between the eye and crown, which is not found on the 1849 coins. Lots of 1850 five dollar Mormon gold coins were minted. However, due to impurities, they didn't stay in circulation very long. Today there are less than 100 known to exist with collectors.

    The 1860 five dollar gold coin has the most unique design of all Mormon coins. The obverse of the 1860 $5 gold coin features a crouching lion in front of a small pool of water. The lion is surrounded by the phrase "Holiness to the Lord" written in the deseret alphabet. The alphabet really just looks like strange characters to the observer today. The reverse shows an eagle behind a beehive. The eagle is clutching arrows in its talons. Deseret Assay Office Pure Gold 5 D is written around the eagle. Gold was discovered in Colorado in 1858, this led to an increased amount of gold coming into Utah around the same time period. This new supply meant that new coins could be minted. Coins struck between 1859 and 1861 are all of the five dollar denomination and all the coins say 1860. It is thought that less than one thousand 1860 five dollar gold Mormon coins were minted. Today less than 100 are known to exist.


    According to historian J. Cecil Alter, Brigham Young, while sojourning in Winter Quarters that first winter, remembered how the boys in the valley were wearing out their pockets reaching for money they did not have and brought with him on his return in September 1848 about $84 in small change. But in a burgeoning population, that was chicken feed and disappeared in the crowd as if it had never been.

    An effort was made in December 1848 to circulate paper money, using handwritten scrip signed by Brigham Young and Heber C. Kimball with Thomas Bullock, clerk, as a counter-signee. The scrip was issued in $1 and $5 denominations backed by gold dust, which was prevalent in the valley, but awkward and inexact in common use. (A pinch of dust varied from thumb to thumb.) After several other attempts, including the re-issue of Kirtland Safety Society anti-Banking notes from the church's failed venture in organizing an Ohio bank, Brigham gave up on paper currency. What was needed was coin.

    The first solid money showed up in Great Salt Lake Valley in December 1847 after Young had left for Winter Quarters to prepare the rest of the Saints for the journey to Utah the following spring. Captain James Brown had ridden into the valley from San Francisco, his saddlebags heavy with Spanish doubloons--back pay owed the Pueblo Detachment of the Mormon Battalion.

    The precise sum is a matter of debate, church records have it ranging from $5,000 to $10,000. But whatever the amount, the doubloons, probably coins of 8-escudo denomination ($20 U.S. value), had been paid by the U.S. Army paymaster to Brown, who held powers of attorney from the Pueblo veterans. Depending on the sum involved, Brown would have had from 250 to 500 of the Spanish coins in his pouches.

    These gold escudos (worth today on the numismatic market about $500 in good condition) were readily accepted by Americans. With approval of the Mormon High Council in Brigham's absence, Brown spent $2,000 to buy Fort Buenaventura from Miles Goodyear; the balance is said to have gone to Battalion members. Still, the reluctance of travelers to accept Mormon scrip or Kirtland Bank notes as legitimate money continued to be a problem.

    As J. Cecil Alter explained it, "To those who knew the sound of his voice, Brigham Young's signature made the new money legal tender by common consent." But with transients, who from 1849 became an important segment of the population--at least in summer--it was a different matter entirely. They were moving onward and would carry the money into a land that knew not Joseph Smith's successor, consequently immigrants not only paid out good money for what they bought, but demanded money they could use in California and Oregon in exchange for wagons, livestock, groceries, clothing, tools and implements they sold in the valley. And, Alter pointed out, that not only threatened depletion of the meager supply of U.S. money but of the gold dust deposits held in security as backing for the paper money issued.

    It was imperative that a coin be struck that in itself was intrinsically worth the amount claimed on its face, which would be acceptable and usable by Mormon residents, Mormons abroad and by non-Mormons in Great Salt Lake City and elsewhere. With the discovery of gold at Sutter's Mill early in 1848, gold dust was finding its way into the Mormon economy in increasing amounts. There are numerous cases of Mormons paying their church tithing in gold dust (at $15 an ounce). This "church treasure," as Alter describes it, was to be melted and rolled into strips from which coins could be stamped.

    The extent to which Mormon authorities had concerned themselves with the situation is evident in a letter from Brigham Young to Thomas (Peg-Leg) Smith, who ran a trading post in the Bear River Valley. " understand that you have a desire to dispose of your establishment, cattle, stock, &c. now in the Bear River Valley," Young wrote, "I send herewith Mr. Lewis Robison, a friend of mine, who is fully authorized to treat with and make suitable arrangements for pay, transfer of property, &c. Whatever arrangements he may make in regard to the pay, you may consider me responsible for the amount.

    The coined money, I have now not on hand, but we are preparing to put the gold dust into coin without an alloy, which if you are disposed to take, you can have--but if you choose the American-coined money we can probably get it by the time you want it. If not, it will probably save me some little trouble." All that remained in the planning process was for Young to order the design of such coins and create the dies to stamp them with.

    Part of that task took place November 25, 1848, when Brigham Young, with John Taylor and John M. Kay, sketched out the coin designs and decided upon inscriptions for them. Alfred B. Lambson forged the dies, the punches, tools and collars; Robert L. Campbell engraved the first stamps for the coins; a drop hammer was forged by Martin H. Peck, John Kay engraved the dies and minted the coins. William Clayton and Thomas Bullock acted as accountant and weigher, respectively.

    Originally, the plan was to mint $2 1/2, $5, $10 and $20 gold pieces, and while this ultimately was done, the $10 coin was the first struck; with twenty-five minted the first day. The first design called for an obverse with the motto Holiness to the Lord and an emblem of the priesthood--a three-pointed Phrygian crown over an All-Seeing Eye of Jehovah. On the reverse, the $2 1/2, $5 and $20 coins were inscribed G.S.L.C. P.G. (Great Salt Lake City Pure Gold) over two clasped hands symbolizing friendship, then the value and the year date.

    The $10 coin bore the words Pure Gold on its reverse, rather than the initialed phrase. This was altered in later coins so the obverse inscription would read Deseret Assay Office, Pure Gold and, at the base, 5 D. On the reverse side was a crouched lion, surrounded by Holiness to the Lord written in Deseret Alphabet characters, then the year 1860. The coins were .899 fine, with a bit of native silver, but no other alloy, for strength. Most of the coins bore the date 1849, but a great many were issued in 1850 and later.

    With hard cash a reality, Daniel H. Wells and Thomas Bullock spent September 10, 1849, destroying the Mormon paper currency. "They tore up and burned between $3,000 and $4,000," according to church records. When the coins were first circulated in St. Louis by Salt Lake merchants who used them to pay for merchandise, the $20 were accepted at $18 because of the touch of silver alloy. In the valley, however, the coins went for face value.

    But over the long account, the Mormon minters had the last laugh, because the numismatic value of these golden treasures are worth many fold what the Saints asked for them. (A $20 1849 Mormon gold piece, for example, is valued at between $25,000 and $50,000, according to Alvin Rust's Mormon and Utah Coin and Currency.)

    The day of the Mormon coiners came to an effective close when the new San Francisco Mint went into operation in 1854, producing U.S. gold and silver hard money by the bagsful daily. The last Mormon gold was minted in 1860.

    One writer wrote: Mormon Gold Coins were minted in 1849, 1850 and 1860. The Twenty Dollar Mormon Gold Coin was the first $20 piece to be minted in the United States, though many of the other dollar denominations had been minted for some time. Soon afterwards the other Assay Companies across the country followed suite, also striking their $20 piece. Private Gold, or gold coins minted outside of the U.S. owned mints were important to the early gold rush prospectors/traders/and general public. There wasn't enough federal currency circulating, and in the western territories and states specifically, money became so scarce of a commodity that the gold and silver they mined was converted to coinage for that very reason.

    Generally speaking the gold was marked by the assayer such as early jeweler and gunsmith, Templeton Reid in Georgia, near the 1830's. Thou Reid was a good measure of weight, his assay were not so "pure". His mint was attacked in the newspapers and soon public confidence was low. His mint went out of business by the end of the year. With a mintage of a mere 1,600 coins, even though the purity of his coins was poor - those owning the coins today are not (poor). He struck a $2.50, $5.00 and $10 dollar coin. Most or at least many of those coins now are worth 6 figures.
     
  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

  5. Numiser

    Numiser Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know what the spot price of unobtanium crystals were in 1865?
    I'd spend my dime on trying to find more unobtanium crystals.
     
  6. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Easy, I'll take the proof Half-Dime and the proof Silver Three cent piece. Then I'd promptly return to my time machine ahead of schedule out of concern for my own safety.
     
  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    @Bradley Trotter is a finalist in the contest.
     
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  8. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    The scratch on the back of my left hand was starting to hurt. Hope it doesn't get infected, I thought to myself, followed by, Why didn't I bring along any Neosporin? Because I had no time to make a good plan and equip myself, I answered myself bitterly. If that damn Johnson hadn't been chasing me... well, no point in what-ifs now. I'm here in 1865 Philadelphia, might as well see if I can at least get something interesting to take back.

    The thought of infection crept back into my head. There's no COVID here, but plenty of other diseases are around, and now that I think about it, I'm not sure that germ theory is yet accepted by medical professionals. Just as well that I will only be here for a short time. As soon as I get back, I'm going to take a full course of vancomycin treatment. And self-isolate for a couple of weeks, too; don't want to bring some long-extinct virus back to the modern world with me...

    Fortunately the streets of downtown Philadelphia are laid out in an orderly grid, and I can still remember a lot of the layout from my time in the city 150 years in the future. (Remember the future? Verb tenses get weird with time travel.) I remember there was a Philadelphia coin dealer named John W. Haseltine around this time, but several passers-by I ask have not heard of him. Maybe I'm a few years too early for his coin business.

    I walk into a small apothecary shop that is vacant of other customers. The proprietor has also never heard of Haseltine, but once he understands I am a coin collector he is quite willing to let me "make change" with the contents of his till. Maybe there's something in there to justify this whole misadventure.

    After about ten minutes, I was almost convinced that the exercise was futile. I was hoping an 1856 Flying Eagle cent might be included, but no such luck. The only foreign coin was a Mexican one real, dated 17-something but so worn and battered that it would gain almost no value by 2021. Then I remember that Civil War tokens might be in use still, and ask if he has any, perhaps kept separate from the main change? He does, and I spend a few minutes looking through the group. Nothing immediately jumps out at me, but they're all in excellent condition. I pick out a few pieces advertising Philadelphia businesses and a very nice Lincoln campaign piece. The apothecary, seeing the token, makes a few remarks on the late President, and I offer my sympathies.

    Then I spot, left in one corner of the till, a strange object that brings up some half-remembered bits of numismatic lore. I ask him to show it to me, and he brings out a metal container, about the size and shape of a quarter, but with the front replaced by a thin piece of glass, with a 3 cent postage stamp stored inside. Encased postage stamps, I remember, were one of the less successful replacements for scarce circulating coins during the War, due to their fragility, and are much coveted by modern collectors. Trying to hide my excitement, I casually ask if that can be included in my change. Sensing a rube, the shopkeeper readily consents to unloading these useless tokens in exchange for my good silver dime. As I head out and start walking back to where I have hidden the Time Machine, I think to myself, this was a pretty good day after all...
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Plainly mad, you are arrested by the patrol and thrown into jail. They discuss sending you to the lunatic asylum but in the evening after supper, they decide to let you go, since you’re obviously a harmless lunatic. You make it back to the time machine just in time to return to 2021... but empty handed. You even lost the dime you found. But the jailer’s wife did feed you some pretty good biscuits- with a tiny dab of honey, even- so there is that. At least you return with a full stomach. Game over.

    Reset button. Later, back in the 21st century, you find enough unobtainium crystals to make one more round trip attempt, but again, only to the afternoon of April 21, 1865. Where to next?
     
  10. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Awesome story!!!
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Sounds like a good day to me. Enough to put @Parthicus on the finalist list.
     
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  12. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member

    Anyway, if I didn’t have to report to work in an hour I’d share a hilarious misconception that I had about silver three cent pieces when I was 7 years old.
     
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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Yes, @Parthicus told a story better than my own intro, when it comes to an eye for detail.

    PS- you couldn’t have brought your neosporin ointment with you, anyway. Modern (21st century) artifacts and substances tend to dematerialize in the time vortex when you try to take them backwards in time, you see. Your clothing made it because it was actually 19th century clothing you’d found in an old trunk you bought in an antique auction. A bit musty, but serviceable.

    Otherwise, you can only take your physical body back in time with you, though you can carry 19th century artifacts forward in time upon your return to the 21st century.
     
  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Good thinking, ‘Yoda. But there’s a hitch. Remember, you only have ten cents of period money to spend. The Mormons aren’t going to let you have any of their gold coins for your paltry dime, even if it was converted to a tiny pinch of gold dust. And copy-pasting a long article doesn’t really satisfy the creative thinking aspect here.

    You manage to escape Salt Lake City- just- but have only five hours left on the time machine before the crystals crack and leave you stranded in 1865. Where will you land to finish out the day? You still have the dime you found.
     
  15. Numiser

    Numiser Well-Known Member

    Since unobtanium crystals are unobtainable in 1865, I would seek out Doc Hoillday. No not Doc Brown!

    Then I would lay that dime down on the green poker table in front of Doc Holliday.

    I'd say, "Doc I challenge you to a game of 5 card stud with my silver dime."

    So, I'm all in at this point with nothing to lose.

    Doc says, "I don't know who you are but you have balls, but your bet is small. But I don't mind taking your dime."

    OK, so to make a long story short, I lost my shirt and dime to a pair of queens to Doc Holliday.

    Well, I say to Doc. "Would you be so kind as to give me some spare change to make it back to Tucson?"

    So Doc reaches into his right front vest pocket and pulls out a pile of small silver and gold coins and says. "It was fun taking the shirt off of your back, here's some chump change, go buy yourself some clothes and a ticket back to Tucson."

    I gracefully say thank you and run my naked body back to the time machine. (before the unobtanium crystals can expire)

    When I get back home, it will be quite a surprise as to what Doc Holliday calls chump change.
     
  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Oh, this is good, though I’m surprised he was so kind to you and didn’t just shoot you for sport.

    So what did ol’ Doc (Holliday) leave you with, exactly?

    Edit- full points for creativity, but I now note that Doc Holliday was 14 years old on April 21st, 1865, and therefore rather unlikely to have pockets full of gold and silver at the time. Probably.

    So not extremely plausible, maybe.

    Still, not bad.
     
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  17. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    Bear with me as a non American.
    After arriving in Philly and hiding my time machine, I make my way to the nearest saloon. I find the rear entrance and appropriate 10 empty corked bottles. Having noticed on the way a large trough for watering horses, I wait till the coast is clear and fill the bottles. In a busy section of town I switch to actor mode and, preceeding Clark Stanley by a good few years, knowing that the first judgement against the legitimacy of the product wouldn't be until 1907, I sell my bottles of miracle cure snake oil for 50 cents a bottle.
    After a great lunch and a wonderful ale I start a conversation with a mint employee about purchasing some of their coinage. Affecting a rather eccentric, fussy attitude, I whisper to him enjoyment of collecting but must have the best examples he can provide of silver proof 3 cent and half dimes. The better the condition, the better the " finders fee " he would surely earn, showing him the 5 dollars in change I acquired earlier. after acquiring some choice pieces and for the hell of it some 5 cent " pattern " nickles ", I casually make my way back to the machine and get the hell out of there.
     
  18. Bradley Trotter

    Bradley Trotter Well-Known Member


    Alright since I arrived at work way before my shift starts I figured I’ve got time to share. When I was about 7 years old my grandfather took me to a flea market coin dealer in Florida. This dealer had a junk-bin of type coins mostly types that I’d never seen before up until that point including some silver trimes. At the time I didn’t know what a trime was and I assumed it was some kind of commemorative coin celebrating Georgia’s statehood due to the reverse design. I didn’t know a thing about Roman numerals, but I had seen a Georgia state flag earlier that day and the seal vaguely reminded me of the flag. That’s why I thought it was a commemorative coin of some kind.

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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Full marks for creativity, but let’s put it to the 1-10 random number generator test.

    1- you get shot for selling trough water at fifty cents a pop. Kaput.

    2,3,4- you get arrested for same, are in jail after midnight, and the unobtainium crystals in your time machine disintegrate, causing the whole contraption to crumble into rusty powder, leaving you stranded in 1865.

    5,6,7- you get arrested but manage to get out in time to return to your machine, but you only have one hour left and the dime in your pocket. Where will you go? Be quick about it!

    8,9,10 (being rather charitable with the odds)- your luck manages to hold for long enough for your scheme to work.

    Let’s see...

    (Hang on a sec...)

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    D’oh! Well, the good news is, you do eventually get lots of neat 19th century coins. Because you’re stuck in the 19th century for most of the remainder of your life. You never get to bring them to the 21st century, because you only live until the early part of the 20th century.

    People think you’re a crackpot when you mention the then-unimaginable 21st century, and few believe you, but on the other hand, you do keep just a few vague memories of the future, and do gather a small circle of people who are amazed by your prophecies and inventions. You never manage to invent another time machine, but you do meet and secretly inspire Thomas Edison. He’s such a bad character that he rips you off, however, and gets all the glory.
     
  20. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    People were not getting arrested for it in 1865. They hadn't heard much if anything about it in Philly. And they had to wait 24 hours for the effect to work, so no suspicion till long after I was gone
     
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  21. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    Ohhhh.... The anticipation....
     
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