TIF made me do it (again)... Caesar's Civil War

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  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    She hasn't shown it in its full glory here yet, but her purchase of a beautiful example of this interesting RR type made me buy one for myself two days after she picked hers up. Dear @TIF, you're the owner of many beautiful coins, and you're also a cruel and merciless enabler of collectors with poor self-control :p.

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    THE POMPEIANS
    L. Cornelius Lentulus and C. Claudius Marcellus

    AR Denarius
    4.05g, 18.5mm
    Military mint in the East (Apollonia and Asia), 49 BC
    Crawford 445/1b; Sydenham 1029a
    O: Triskeles with winged head of Medusa in centre and corn ears between legs.
    R: LENT–MAR / COS, Jupiter standing facing, holding thunderbolt and eagle.

    Here's a short writeup to give this cool coin some historical context. No dioramas or fun animated cartoons, I'm afraid... that's TIF's department :D.

    49 BC was the year the Great Roman Civil War began. The consuls for the year, L. Cornelius Lentulus Crus and C. Claudius Marcellus Major, had issued an ultimatum to Julius Caesar, ordering that he disband his legions and return to Rome from his command in Cisalpine Gaul. In response, Caesar famously crossed the Rubicon with a legion of soldiers, sparking a civil war between himself and the Roman Senate.

    Pompey the Great, Caesar's chief rival in the Senate, was unaware that Caesar was marching on Rome with just one legion and believed that the city could not be defended. Along with the two consuls and the majority of the Senate, he abandoned the city and fled eastwards to raise troops to oppose Caesar.

    Lentulus and Marcellus struck this issue at military mints (Apollonia and then Asia, per Crawford) during the summer of 49 BC, in support of Pompey. By September 48 BC, however, Pompey was dead, murdered when he tried to seek refuge from Caesar in Egypt. Lentulus arrived in Egypt shortly after Pompey's killing and was immediately imprisoned by Ptolemy XIII and soon thereafter executed. Marcellus's fate is not recorded, but he most likely did not survive the war either.

    The design on the obverse of this issue, the triskeles with the winged head of Medusa, is a familial reference to the capturing of Sicily (whose symbol was the triskeles) by Marcellus's illustrious ancestor, M. Claudius Marcellus, five-time consul and hero of the Second Punic War.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I'm glad you posted it! I'm so far behind in posting coins/writeups (and behind in browsing CoinTalk-- the recently unpleasant atmosphere and volume of abrasive posts have also been a deterrent) that it is hard to even begin. Thanks for taking control of this writeup :D. I may borrow it for my website, if that's okay :)

    Your coin is fantastic and it was a heck of a deal :)

    Here's the offending stimulus for your purchase:

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    THE POMPEIANS
    L. Cornelius Lentulus and C. Claudius Marcellus

    Military mint in the East (Apollonia and Asia), 49 BC
    AR denarius, 19 mm, 3.8 gm
    Obv: Triskeles, with winged head of Medusa facing at center; stalk of grain between each leg
    Rev: Jupiter standing facing, head right, holding thunderbolt in right hand and eagle on left; LE(NT) (MAR) upward to left, COS upward to right
    Ref: Crawford 445/1b; Sydenham 1029a
    formerly slabbed, NGC ChVF*, 5/5, 5/5

    My shoulder devil was @Carthago and I regret not being being able to win the wonderful example he sold in a recent CNG print auction.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2016
  4. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    There it is! I really love the toning and centering you have on yours. I'm feeling better about my moment of weakness now.
     
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  5. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Both of those are fantastic! Congrats to both of you.

    And TIF, I noticed you stated yours was formerly slabbed ... glad to see it freed, but I bet it was kind of nerve-racking busting it out!
     
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  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Not at all! Just a few sharp taps will split the seam and the slab opens like a book :)
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, Z-Bro => that's a very sweet OP-addition (congrats on scoring that beauty!!)

    ... oh, and your coin is okay too, Granger


    :rolleyes:
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Or, should you have a bench vise; 3-5 twists on the long and short sides, the sonic weld-seam just pops and it opens like a book! :)
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @stevex6 and @TIF your cross-continent envy has snared folks in between. This coin has been on my radar also... Don't be surprised that a redundancy shows up in my posts sometime! NICE JOB to both of you! Gorgeous captures!
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    And then there is the poor man's version:
    L CORNELIUS LENTULUE.jpg
     
  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Steve, Zumbly, and I do seem to be bad influences on one another. Actually, many of you are bad influences on me :D
     
  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Actually, Bing, now I recall that yours was the first one I'd seen. So you share the blame with TIF!
     
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  13. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Congratulations Zum and TIF. That's a neat type and you both have good examples of it. TIF, your's appears to be done in a particularly nice relief.

    I upgraded mine a year or so ago, selling my old one in Triton earlier this year. Here's my current one:
    L Cornelius Lentulus and C Claudius Marcellus M&M 2014.jpg
     
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  14. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    I don't have a pic of my example of the OP coin. Here's its partner:

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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yeah well, I do need to upgrade one of these days.
     
  16. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WOW !!! Fantastic posts!!! Love that type 'Z'....

    If 'Mum' was still alive she'd prohibit me from hanging out with you guys!! You're ALL bad influences on me......:D and my bank account;):)
     
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  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh wow, some sweet stuff here all you...dang.
     
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  18. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I know it's been pointed out before but I just wanted to say that I find it interesting how our collecting habits influence each other.

    Nice coins everyone! That triskeles is interesting and so is the "unknown military mint."
     
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  19. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Very nice coins here
     
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  20. Loong Siew

    Loong Siew Well-Known Member

  21. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Sweet coin! I'd love t have one, even yours Bing! :)
     
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