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<p>[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1870132, member: 41863"]By maybe purchasing something that isn't selling. It's not often, and it sure isn't everything (most times their items are priced fair) but it can and has been done (also keep in mind Wally World has to subsist on high turnover rates, so not much sits around) Same as Lowes. I actually worked for lowes so I saw it happen first hand. </p><p><br /></p><p>My point, aside from all the bickering, is I am going to question anyone who tries to separate me from my money if I don't agree on the price. </p><p><br /></p><p>For the record I've purchased not one, but two guns off the shelves at wal-mart for an offer price. They stayed there too long (much like some coins) and were reduced or priced accordingly. I went in, seen the guns and asked if they would take $XXX.XX for it. I now have a Henry .22 Lever Action rifle for a fair price, other gun was Winchester .300 magnum rifle. Completely separate occasions. </p><p><br /></p><p>Again, not every situation is like that, but the point is it can be done. Same as in Lowes. Next time you are in one check out their scratch and dent aisle for appliances. MAKE A REASONABLE OFFER, they will take it. Also, if you buy quite a bit from them fairly often, you can ask and likely get a discount. Also applies to items that are generally for contractors but if you buy enough they can work with you too. </p><p><br /></p><p>I guess my biggest fault is that I manage my money and try to retain every hard earned dollar that I receive. I smartly shop as much as I can. </p><p><br /></p><p>And let me say this again, I do NOT disrespect store owners or dealers and just lowball everything I see. I purchase many things for whatever the asking price is. However if I see an opportunity to save a few bucks or I think the deal is lopsided I am not afraid to speak up. </p><p><br /></p><p>"A fool and his money are soon parted". I like to think that I am no fool, and don't rightly care if someone gets offended by my preference and methods. I look after what's best for me and mine. Until you enter that circle, I don't owe you anything but common courtesy and mutual respect. </p><p><br /></p><p>Doug, a dealer only sells to other dealers so that they can then sell to collectors. Again it's a hypothetical, but the hobby would function without the dealer, not so without the collector. </p><p><br /></p><p>The US Mint is the supplier, first and foremost, coin dealer is mandate number 2. They are also unique in the fact that no other dealer actually physically produces the majority of coins collected. If the mint only produced coins for circulation and didn't sell anything to collectors, you would still have people collecting coins. If they only sold to collectors and didn't make anything for circulation they wouldn't exist. </p><p><br /></p><p>So as a collector I can: buy from the mint, pull from circulation, attend auctions, mail into auctions, buy through online auction houses, trade on various forums and social media, buy through the classifieds, attend coin clubs and swap meets, put out want ads, and the list can go on and on. </p><p><br /></p><p>A dealer has 3 options.</p><p><br /></p><p>1) Sell to the collector.</p><p><br /></p><p>2) Sell to the next dealer, who at some point has to offload to the collector base</p><p><br /></p><p>3) Not exist</p><p><br /></p><p>And again, I agree that dealers are very much appreciated and an integral part of this hobby, they are invaluable resources if you are seriously in the market for really good coins, and they do fill a needed gap. Still at the end of the day we could collect without them, not saying it would be easier as it would be quite a bit harder, but it could be done easier than the hobby remaining in tact without collectors.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1870132, member: 41863"]By maybe purchasing something that isn't selling. It's not often, and it sure isn't everything (most times their items are priced fair) but it can and has been done (also keep in mind Wally World has to subsist on high turnover rates, so not much sits around) Same as Lowes. I actually worked for lowes so I saw it happen first hand. My point, aside from all the bickering, is I am going to question anyone who tries to separate me from my money if I don't agree on the price. For the record I've purchased not one, but two guns off the shelves at wal-mart for an offer price. They stayed there too long (much like some coins) and were reduced or priced accordingly. I went in, seen the guns and asked if they would take $XXX.XX for it. I now have a Henry .22 Lever Action rifle for a fair price, other gun was Winchester .300 magnum rifle. Completely separate occasions. Again, not every situation is like that, but the point is it can be done. Same as in Lowes. Next time you are in one check out their scratch and dent aisle for appliances. MAKE A REASONABLE OFFER, they will take it. Also, if you buy quite a bit from them fairly often, you can ask and likely get a discount. Also applies to items that are generally for contractors but if you buy enough they can work with you too. I guess my biggest fault is that I manage my money and try to retain every hard earned dollar that I receive. I smartly shop as much as I can. And let me say this again, I do NOT disrespect store owners or dealers and just lowball everything I see. I purchase many things for whatever the asking price is. However if I see an opportunity to save a few bucks or I think the deal is lopsided I am not afraid to speak up. "A fool and his money are soon parted". I like to think that I am no fool, and don't rightly care if someone gets offended by my preference and methods. I look after what's best for me and mine. Until you enter that circle, I don't owe you anything but common courtesy and mutual respect. Doug, a dealer only sells to other dealers so that they can then sell to collectors. Again it's a hypothetical, but the hobby would function without the dealer, not so without the collector. The US Mint is the supplier, first and foremost, coin dealer is mandate number 2. They are also unique in the fact that no other dealer actually physically produces the majority of coins collected. If the mint only produced coins for circulation and didn't sell anything to collectors, you would still have people collecting coins. If they only sold to collectors and didn't make anything for circulation they wouldn't exist. So as a collector I can: buy from the mint, pull from circulation, attend auctions, mail into auctions, buy through online auction houses, trade on various forums and social media, buy through the classifieds, attend coin clubs and swap meets, put out want ads, and the list can go on and on. A dealer has 3 options. 1) Sell to the collector. 2) Sell to the next dealer, who at some point has to offload to the collector base 3) Not exist And again, I agree that dealers are very much appreciated and an integral part of this hobby, they are invaluable resources if you are seriously in the market for really good coins, and they do fill a needed gap. Still at the end of the day we could collect without them, not saying it would be easier as it would be quite a bit harder, but it could be done easier than the hobby remaining in tact without collectors.[/QUOTE]
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