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<p>[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1869930, member: 41863"]I haggle at car dealerships, antique stores, second hand stores, pawn shops, wal mart, gun shows, lowes and every other place that sells something if I don't agree with the price. I'm not disrespectful about it, but I also don't always have the time to drive to the next store/shop/venue in hopes that they priced the item right. </p><p><br /></p><p>My time is also valuable and as such if we aren't too far off from a realistic price then I will always shoot a reasonable counter offer over the bow, as it saves my valuable time scouting out another item that fits my need. </p><p><br /></p><p>Well FWIW, what I said from your perspective may not be what you wrote, but it's the general idea I garnered from it. </p><p><br /></p><p>I still feel that I am right about the haggling though, as you've admitted that folks who think like you and have that inside knowledge are few and far between just as 'good dealers' are sparse. </p><p><br /></p><p>So until a good dealer proves he is a good dealer I would rather treat him with respect and carry on with my business as I see fit, which includes haggling if the price isn't fair to both parties. </p><p><br /></p><p>And I am also right about not needing dealers, especially now in the digital age. As a collector it is our duty to know what we are buying and scout it out. We will go to wherever the coins are. However without a buyer the dealer has nothing. It's just that simple. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sure we can fudge the line between collectors who sell and straight out dealers, but I'm positive the hobby would be fine without dealers. They make things easier, but it wouldn't be impossible to acquire coins if they didn't exist. </p><p><br /></p><p>The only thing you need for any collection is somebody issuing something and another person willing to hoard it. Dealers are just a by product of so much demand that they filled a void. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here's an example of collecting coins without a dealer. Buying from the mint. They issued it and we are willing to collect it. Anything they have produced can be found through purchasing from a collector (how else does a dealer get coins but by buying from collectors or the issuer) or by purchasing it when it came out. </p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not against dealers by the way, just saying the hobby could exist just fine without them, although it's a hypothetical as we both know that will never happen.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1869930, member: 41863"]I haggle at car dealerships, antique stores, second hand stores, pawn shops, wal mart, gun shows, lowes and every other place that sells something if I don't agree with the price. I'm not disrespectful about it, but I also don't always have the time to drive to the next store/shop/venue in hopes that they priced the item right. My time is also valuable and as such if we aren't too far off from a realistic price then I will always shoot a reasonable counter offer over the bow, as it saves my valuable time scouting out another item that fits my need. Well FWIW, what I said from your perspective may not be what you wrote, but it's the general idea I garnered from it. I still feel that I am right about the haggling though, as you've admitted that folks who think like you and have that inside knowledge are few and far between just as 'good dealers' are sparse. So until a good dealer proves he is a good dealer I would rather treat him with respect and carry on with my business as I see fit, which includes haggling if the price isn't fair to both parties. And I am also right about not needing dealers, especially now in the digital age. As a collector it is our duty to know what we are buying and scout it out. We will go to wherever the coins are. However without a buyer the dealer has nothing. It's just that simple. Sure we can fudge the line between collectors who sell and straight out dealers, but I'm positive the hobby would be fine without dealers. They make things easier, but it wouldn't be impossible to acquire coins if they didn't exist. The only thing you need for any collection is somebody issuing something and another person willing to hoard it. Dealers are just a by product of so much demand that they filled a void. Here's an example of collecting coins without a dealer. Buying from the mint. They issued it and we are willing to collect it. Anything they have produced can be found through purchasing from a collector (how else does a dealer get coins but by buying from collectors or the issuer) or by purchasing it when it came out. I'm not against dealers by the way, just saying the hobby could exist just fine without them, although it's a hypothetical as we both know that will never happen.[/QUOTE]
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