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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;treylxapi47, post: 1869930, member: 41863&quot;]I haggle at car dealerships, antique stores, second hand stores, pawn shops, wal mart, gun shows, lowes and every other place that sells something if I don&#039;t agree with the price. I&#039;m not disrespectful about it, but I also don&#039;t always have the time to drive to the next store/shop/venue in hopes that they priced the item right. </p><p><br /></p><p>My time is also valuable and as such if we aren&#039;t too far off from a realistic price then I will always shoot a reasonable counter offer over the bow, as it saves my valuable time scouting out another item that fits my need. </p><p><br /></p><p>Well FWIW, what I said from your perspective may not be what you wrote, but it&#039;s the general idea I garnered from it. </p><p><br /></p><p>I still feel that I am right about the haggling though, as you&#039;ve admitted that folks who think like you and have that inside knowledge are few and far between just as &#039;good dealers&#039; are sparse. </p><p><br /></p><p>So until a good dealer proves he is a good dealer I would rather treat him with respect and carry on with my business as I see fit, which includes haggling if the price isn&#039;t fair to both parties. </p><p><br /></p><p>And I am also right about not needing dealers, especially now in the digital age. As a collector it is our duty to know what we are buying and scout it out. We will go to wherever the coins are. However without a buyer the dealer has nothing. It&#039;s just that simple. </p><p><br /></p><p>Sure we can fudge the line between collectors who sell and straight out dealers, but I&#039;m positive the hobby would be fine without dealers. They make things easier, but it wouldn&#039;t be impossible to acquire coins if they didn&#039;t exist. </p><p><br /></p><p>The only thing you need for any collection is somebody issuing something and another person willing to hoard it. Dealers are just a by product of so much demand that they filled a void. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s an example of collecting coins without a dealer. Buying from the mint. They issued it and we are willing to collect it. Anything they have produced can be found through purchasing from a collector (how else does a dealer get coins but by buying from collectors or the issuer) or by purchasing it when it came out. </p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m not against dealers by the way, just saying the hobby could exist just fine without them, although it&#039;s a hypothetical as we both know that will never happen.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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