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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;treylxapi47, post: 1869867, member: 41863&quot;]Doug, you are saying that dealers feel like they price their coins fair (most of the time) judging by these inside conversations you have had with many of them and through your experience on forums, and they dont really want to haggle.</p><p><br /></p><p>You are also saying that many customers/collectors feel that it is the natural way of things to want to negotiate, based off of your many years being involved in coin forums</p><p><br /></p><p>So heres the dilemma, YOU and YOU alone have had the necessary privilege to peek inside how the dealers feel. It is NOT our duty as a buyer to assume anything about a dealer and likewise if ANY of them feel haggling is an issue, then THEY&nbsp; should have signs visible that says all prices are final and non-negotiable, whether at a B&amp;M or a show. To further that, any time a counter offer is mentioned it should be responded with a firm &#039;NO&#039; and then eventually people realize that dealer isnt willing to wiggle on his prices. So to me the dealer is at fault for not properly defining how they wish to do business, since they have the coins and the structure in place to be selling.</p><p><br /></p><p>The last part of all of this is that you are missing is that the buyer is the most important part of this relationship. I have all ideas that we can do without &#039;dealers&#039; and just sell or trade among collectors or through auction houses, or mail order or ample other means that dealers wont get their feelings hurt over some haggling. Whats a dealer going to do without any customers? Not exist.</p><p><br /></p><p>If not a single customer comes through your shop or you are priced over what a normal individual deems acceptable, then you wont be in business very long, and again there are a million and one reasons why even a &#039;good&#039; dealer could be wrong on the price.</p><p><br /></p><p>As just an example, Dealer Tom buys some bulk graded coins. Lets say MS-66 Walkers. He gets them in, glances over them, and prices them mid-high retail. What he doesnt notice is that NGC or PCGS had a bad day and slightly over-graded a few of the coins (but these are all thats left are the over-graded examples when I walk in). Now from the perspective you are coming from, hes a reputable dealer, and I should just accept his price, even though I dont agree with the grade and feel it is more of a 65. </p><p><br /></p><p>My perspective, and the very nature of coin collecting being so subjective, tells me that I better counter the dealers price as I would be over-paying because I dont agree with the experts grade.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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