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<p>[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 3064962, member: 10461"][USER=94976]@DBinSV[/USER] - welcome!</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>#1 </b>I am essentially clueless about, though it's obviously old. And I'd say it is indeed a coin. I get a vague "central Asia" vibe (India, Afghanistan, etc- India is my hunch). That's a bit of a cop-out and is my go-to diagnosis for lots of "<i>irregularly shaped coins with squiggles on 'em</i>", but that vague hunch is right more often than not. It looks silver. My (mostly-uneducated) guess is India or somewhere in that part of the world. Could be anywhere on the timeline from medieval to 19th century, for all I know, but I'd be surprised if it was less than 150-200 years old. Sorry, that's all I've got on that one. Perhaps someone with more experience in Eastern or Asian coins can help.</p><p><br /></p><p>Repost it on the World Coins or maybe even the Ancients forum. It could well be ancient (though I suspect more medieval to early modern). Some of our sharpest scholarly types hang out on the Ancients forum, so no harm in trying it there.</p><p><br /></p><p>In my newly-promoted moderator role, I had the power to move this thread to the World Coins forum, but chose not to, since I've still got my Moderator training wheels on, and besides, I think I can help with the other two coins...</p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>#2</b> is likely a <b>Polish silver 6-groschen</b> piece of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_II_Casimir_Vasa" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_II_Casimir_Vasa" rel="nofollow">Johann Casimir</a>, dated 1662-AT. The type is KM#91 (or a similar variant). I personally would grade it around Fine (F12) by American standards. The NGC (Krause-Mishler) priceguide <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-6-groschen-km-91-1650-1667-cuid-1098278-duid-1547518" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-6-groschen-km-91-1650-1667-cuid-1098278-duid-1547518" rel="nofollow">lists it</a> at $17 in VG8 but skips the Fine (F12) grade, jumping to $70 in VF20. I think the VG8 price is far more realistic. By extrapolating from the catalog prices, you could <i>hypothetically</i> call this a $20-25-ish coin. There does appear to be some greenish deposits, but I don't think that's unusual for silver coins (perhaps <i>debased</i> silver) from this region and era. One sometimes sees that kind of oxidation/encrustation on coins recovered from old northern European buried hoards. I'd leave it on there, as it isn't likely to affect the value much.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>#3</b> appears to be a <b>Polish silver Ort</b> of the <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-ort-km-37-1620-1628-cuid-1094572-duid-1548355" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-ort-km-37-1620-1628-cuid-1094572-duid-1548355" rel="nofollow">KM#37</a> type. You can see the first two "16" digits of the date to the left of the shield. It is difficult in the picture to determine what the final two digits in the date are (to the right of the shield). I have marked that area with an arrow in the image below, and rotated the image, since you had the reverses of both Polish coins upside-down. I <i>think</i> the last part of that date says "22", so if so, it would be a 1622 ort. A somewhat weak/flat strike in the lettering is not that unusual on these, so the mushy date numerals are not surprising. If indeed a 1622, <a href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-ort-km-37-1620-1628-cuid-1094572-duid-1551169" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-ort-km-37-1620-1628-cuid-1094572-duid-1551169" rel="nofollow">it lists for</a> $25 in VG8 and $80 in VF20. I think this particular example does have VF details, so based on catalog, it's <i>hypothetically </i>an $80 coin, but I'd be much more conservative on the "real world" value estimate. As [USER=76266]@longshot[/USER] indicated, the king shown on the obverse of this piece is <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_III_Vasa" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_III_Vasa" rel="nofollow">Sigismund III</a>. (And his "quarter Thaler" assessment is also correct, since 1 Ort = 1/4 Thaler.)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]769255[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 3064962, member: 10461"][USER=94976]@DBinSV[/USER] - welcome! [B] #1 [/B]I am essentially clueless about, though it's obviously old. And I'd say it is indeed a coin. I get a vague "central Asia" vibe (India, Afghanistan, etc- India is my hunch). That's a bit of a cop-out and is my go-to diagnosis for lots of "[I]irregularly shaped coins with squiggles on 'em[/I]", but that vague hunch is right more often than not. It looks silver. My (mostly-uneducated) guess is India or somewhere in that part of the world. Could be anywhere on the timeline from medieval to 19th century, for all I know, but I'd be surprised if it was less than 150-200 years old. Sorry, that's all I've got on that one. Perhaps someone with more experience in Eastern or Asian coins can help. Repost it on the World Coins or maybe even the Ancients forum. It could well be ancient (though I suspect more medieval to early modern). Some of our sharpest scholarly types hang out on the Ancients forum, so no harm in trying it there. In my newly-promoted moderator role, I had the power to move this thread to the World Coins forum, but chose not to, since I've still got my Moderator training wheels on, and besides, I think I can help with the other two coins... [B] #2[/B] is likely a [B]Polish silver 6-groschen[/B] piece of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_II_Casimir_Vasa']Johann Casimir[/URL], dated 1662-AT. The type is KM#91 (or a similar variant). I personally would grade it around Fine (F12) by American standards. The NGC (Krause-Mishler) priceguide [URL='https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-6-groschen-km-91-1650-1667-cuid-1098278-duid-1547518']lists it[/URL] at $17 in VG8 but skips the Fine (F12) grade, jumping to $70 in VF20. I think the VG8 price is far more realistic. By extrapolating from the catalog prices, you could [I]hypothetically[/I] call this a $20-25-ish coin. There does appear to be some greenish deposits, but I don't think that's unusual for silver coins (perhaps [I]debased[/I] silver) from this region and era. One sometimes sees that kind of oxidation/encrustation on coins recovered from old northern European buried hoards. I'd leave it on there, as it isn't likely to affect the value much. [B]#3[/B] appears to be a [B]Polish silver Ort[/B] of the [URL='https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-ort-km-37-1620-1628-cuid-1094572-duid-1548355']KM#37[/URL] type. You can see the first two "16" digits of the date to the left of the shield. It is difficult in the picture to determine what the final two digits in the date are (to the right of the shield). I have marked that area with an arrow in the image below, and rotated the image, since you had the reverses of both Polish coins upside-down. I [I]think[/I] the last part of that date says "22", so if so, it would be a 1622 ort. A somewhat weak/flat strike in the lettering is not that unusual on these, so the mushy date numerals are not surprising. If indeed a 1622, [URL='https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/poland-ort-km-37-1620-1628-cuid-1094572-duid-1551169']it lists for[/URL] $25 in VG8 and $80 in VF20. I think this particular example does have VF details, so based on catalog, it's [I]hypothetically [/I]an $80 coin, but I'd be much more conservative on the "real world" value estimate. As [USER=76266]@longshot[/USER] indicated, the king shown on the obverse of this piece is [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_III_Vasa']Sigismund III[/URL]. (And his "quarter Thaler" assessment is also correct, since 1 Ort = 1/4 Thaler.) [ATTACH=full]769255[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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