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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3079359, member: 24314"]Cheech9712, posted: "Wow. Sounds like your <b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">[you are, you're?]</span></b> never wrong."</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie96" alt=":vomit:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Wow, I have no idea how anyone can come up with this <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> tidbit...could it be <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie49" alt=":grumpy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie79" alt=":rage:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, envy, insecurity?</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyone who has been on CT for awhile can attest that this is nonsense and I admit <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie80" alt=":shame:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> my errors here when pointed out.</p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps you did not read my posts earlier in this discussion. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie3" alt=":(" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>THAT COIN WAS <b><i><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">OVERGRADED</span></i></b> and I said so. Note my grades and the good reasons for any of the other grades posted. Grading is subjective and the knowledge, eyesight, magnification, skill, and experience of the grader make it so. <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)">Please make sure to read the end of this post which may have saved you the trouble of throwing a rock.</span> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Insider, posted previously</b>: "This is a coin that can be graded from AU-58 to MS-63 as well as "Details" or straight. Any one who says AU is correct as there is loss of luster (different color) from rub on the high points. <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)"> It is NOT XF</span>. Anyone who says MS is a liberal commercial grader or dealer BECAUSE this coin should bring MS money. If it were sold as AU you would leave money on the table. So MS-62 is a great guess - a technical AU worth MS money so TPGS = MS-62.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now. The coin is 100% not original. <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 0)">It is NOT polished</span>. I see hairlines but nothing major. <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> It is a coin I would not even look at because it is an "across the room "technical" AU.</span> Now the TPGS needs to show why we use them. They need to be fair to the coin, the customer, and the next owner... no telling how knowledgeable either owner/buyer are. So the TPGS must set a value on the coin by the grade they assign.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is my <b>guess</b> <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie30" alt=":bucktooth:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> that ICG and PCGS graded it MS and NGC graded it AU. There is a very good chance that each TPGS detailed it.</p><p><br /></p><p>THIS IS WHY EACH OF US NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO GRADE COINS BY OUR OWN STANDARDS...a slab label is just an EDUCATED GUIDE."</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Insider posted previously</b>: <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">"What is the number on the ICG label? That may tell when the coin was <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> OVERGRADED!" </span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Insider posted previously</b>: "<b><i><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)">IMO, MS-64 is STUPID! </span></i></b> <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)">This is one of the worst examples of overgrading I have seen from ICG. I'll defend all the major TPGS when they deserve it and even SEGS but this has me stumped. At least they got the attribution correct." <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Note that I asked the OP to send me the number on the label so I can check it out. I believe in "trust" but verify. I do know for sure that I never graded that coin MS-64. </span></span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 3079359, member: 24314"]Cheech9712, posted: "Wow. Sounds like your [B][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)][you are, you're?][/COLOR][/B] never wrong." :rolleyes::confused::vomit: Wow, I have no idea how anyone can come up with this :wacky: tidbit...could it be :grumpy:, :rage:, envy, insecurity? Anyone who has been on CT for awhile can attest that this is nonsense and I admit :oops::shame: my errors here when pointed out. Perhaps you did not read my posts earlier in this discussion. :( THAT COIN WAS [B][I][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]OVERGRADED[/COLOR][/I][/B] and I said so. Note my grades and the good reasons for any of the other grades posted. Grading is subjective and the knowledge, eyesight, magnification, skill, and experience of the grader make it so. [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 179)]Please make sure to read the end of this post which may have saved you the trouble of throwing a rock.[/COLOR] ;) [B]Insider, posted previously[/B]: "This is a coin that can be graded from AU-58 to MS-63 as well as "Details" or straight. Any one who says AU is correct as there is loss of luster (different color) from rub on the high points. [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)] It is NOT XF[/COLOR]. Anyone who says MS is a liberal commercial grader or dealer BECAUSE this coin should bring MS money. If it were sold as AU you would leave money on the table. So MS-62 is a great guess - a technical AU worth MS money so TPGS = MS-62. Now. The coin is 100% not original. [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 0)]It is NOT polished[/COLOR]. I see hairlines but nothing major. [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] It is a coin I would not even look at because it is an "across the room "technical" AU.[/COLOR] Now the TPGS needs to show why we use them. They need to be fair to the coin, the customer, and the next owner... no telling how knowledgeable either owner/buyer are. So the TPGS must set a value on the coin by the grade they assign. It is my [B]guess[/B] :bucktooth: that ICG and PCGS graded it MS and NGC graded it AU. There is a very good chance that each TPGS detailed it. THIS IS WHY EACH OF US NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO GRADE COINS BY OUR OWN STANDARDS...a slab label is just an EDUCATED GUIDE." [B]Insider posted previously[/B]: [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]"What is the number on the ICG label? That may tell when the coin was :oops: OVERGRADED!" [/COLOR] [B]Insider posted previously[/B]: "[B][I][COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 0)]IMO, MS-64 is STUPID! [/COLOR][/I][/B] [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 179)]This is one of the worst examples of overgrading I have seen from ICG. I'll defend all the major TPGS when they deserve it and even SEGS but this has me stumped. At least they got the attribution correct." [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Note that I asked the OP to send me the number on the label so I can check it out. I believe in "trust" but verify. I do know for sure that I never graded that coin MS-64. [/COLOR][/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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