Three different coins of Northern Song Emperor Hui Zong

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  1. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I've been working through my unattributed Asian cash coins recently in a thread on the World Coins forum. I can read characters, but that's about it, so it's been educational digging through the Hartill books and starting to teach myself how to attribute these.
    Most are too new for this board, but I though these 3 made a nice set.
    L: Hui Zong, Sheng Song Yuan Bao 聖宋元寶, Seal Script, 1101-1106 Hartill 16.354-60?
    C: Hui Zong, Zheng He Tong Bao 政和通寶, Seal Script, 1111-1117 Hartill 16.437?
    R: Hui Zong, Zheng He Tong Bao 政和通寶, Clerical Script, 1111-1117 Hartill 16.449?

    Not sure why the left one is so much lighter in color--I don't think it's one of the iron ones. It's hard to pinpoint the exact variety from subtle differences in the character strokes. I think most of these were picked out of 99 cent bins of cash coins about 25 years ago, before I knew much of anything about Asian coins.
    ob.jpg rev.jpg

    Please post any Song Dynasty coins if you like!
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Cool coins, @The Eidolon ...


    China Song Dynasty 10th-12th C CE AE Gaming Token 29mm 6.42g Zhui Feng Zhi Ma-horse following wind- - Horse galloping left - Classic Chinese Charms Vol I 2149


    China Northern Song 960-1127 CE Huang Song Tong Bao 1038 CE H 16.113

    China Northern Song 960-1127 CE Huang Song Tong Bao 1038 CE H 16.99
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  4. ominus1

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    ..kool coins..i need to get mine out and go thru'em and see what i have..China has quite a history, coins and otherwise..:)
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  5. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    @The Eidolon : I think your first coin is 16.360, based on the shape of the character Yuan. The difference in color is probably due to conditions in the soil where it was buried for centuries (minerals that deposit on the surface, etc.), but I don't know specifics.

    Here's a coin of the emperor Ren Zong (1022-1063), Jia You period (1056-1063), which cost me a whole $2 from a junk box at the Baltimore Whitman show in 2019, and which I discussed in an earlier post:
    Northern Song Jia You.jpg
  6. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    I always liked the Northern and Southern Song coins:

    Imperial China, Southern Song: Kai Xi (1205-1207) FE 2 Cash, Tongan Mint (Hartill-17.529)
    Emperor Ning Zong (1195-1224)
    Obv: 開(开)禧通宝 Kai Xi tong bao
    Rev: 同 Tong above. Tongan mint, Anhui. Numbers for the year of casting below. 三 san (Year 3 - 1203)


    Imperial China, Southern Song: Qing Yuan (1195-1200) AE 3 Cash (Hartill-17.446)
    Obv: 慶(庆)元通寶 Qing Yuan tong bao
    Rev: 五 wu; Year of casting (1199)


    Imperial China, Northern Song: Sheng Song (1101-1106 CE) AE Cash (Hartill-16.354)

    Obv: 聖(圣)宋元寶 Sheng Song yuan bao clockwise. Seal script with Dynastic title (Sacred Song)
    Rev: Blank

  7. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    I'll never get tired of showing off this guy.

    It's N Song, Emperor Huizong, Chong Ning Zhong Bao, 10 cash.
    No clue the Hartill no though.
    Hui Zong Northern Song 10 Cash.JPG
  8. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Maybe this one:

    Imperial China, Northern Song Dynasty: Chong Ning (1101-1125) AE Ten Cash (Hartill-16.408)
    Obv: 崇宁重宝 Chong Ning zhong bao. Li script (1102-06). Large Ten Cash with thin characters
    Rev: Blank


    An auction lot that I bought a while ago of Northern Song coins:

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  9. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    bought these 3 for a song:

    P1150306vcc (2).jpg
  10. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    Thanks foe the attribution!
  11. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    I know nearly nothing about these but bought one for fun. I don’t get to post it often, so here it is! The below information is from the seller and I have no idea if it’s accurate or not:
    Song (Sung) dynasty of ancient China
    Ten Cash
    1102 - 1106 ad.
    Catalog No. H16.399 (David Hartill's), FD1040 ((Ding's), and S621 (Schjoth's)

    Obverse: Script - CHONG-NING ZHONG-BAO
    Chong has the meaning of "sublime" and "worship". Ning can translate as "tranquil" and "peaceful". Zhong-Bao can be translated as "heavy currency"

    Reverse: Blank as minted
    35.0 MM AND 11.65 GRAMS
  12. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    The right character is not “zhong;” compare to my example which is. Not sure what character yours has though. Maybe “tong”
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  13. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    I think they just erroneously called it a zhongbao instead of a tongbao
    Here's my take on the characters:
    崇寧通寶 (Chong-Ning-Tong-Bao) 1102-1106
    Here's a similar piece on Numista.
    Reads clockwise from top rather than the usual top-bottom-right-left.
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  14. The Eidolon

    The Eidolon Well-Known Member

    (duplicate post while trying to edit)
    Here's a Zhen Zhong 咸平元寶 (998-1003) so as not to have a blank post.

    Zhen Zong 998-1003 咸平元寶 copy.jpg
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