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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2953270, member: 19463"]My first new coin of 2018 is something I always found interesting but turns out to be even more especially considering its less than perfect condition. I like coins with more than one portrait. This has three. I like coins with agonistic urns. This has three. I like coins that make me ask <span style="color: #ff0000">questions</span> and this may make it hard to stop with just three.</p><p><br /></p><p>The coin is AE25 from Nicomedia in Bithynia showing Valerian I (left) and Gallienus (right) facing each other and a smaller Valerian II facing right between them. The type is listed in BMC vol.13, page 192 as # 70 but is not illustrated. BMC provides a complete obverse legend as ΑΥΤ ΟΥΑΛΕΡΙΑΝΟC ΓΑΛΛΗΝΟC ΟΥΑΛΕΡΙΑΝΟC of which my coin shows ΑΛΕΡΙΑΝΟC ΓΑΛΛΗΝΟC Ο but I question if there is enough space for all those other letters. <span style="color: #ff0000">I wonder if the BM specimen actually has all the letters to confirm the reading.</span> Sear mentions that several Provincial mints shortened the name Gallienus to Gallenus as this one does. (<span style="color: #ff0000">Why had I not noticed this before?</span> I need to pay more attention.) Under Gallienus is a raised region with some small points around the edge and a voided circle in the center. <span style="color: #ff0000">What is this?</span> Flaw? Countermark? </p><p>[ATTACH=full]721796[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>The reverse shows three agonistic urns as awarded a prizes in contests (often athletic). <span style="color: #ff0000"> Is there a code to the number of palms in the urns? What games produced these victories? </span><span style="color: #000000">The city name is off flan at the top. I am confident that this is ΝΙΚΟΜHΔΕΩΝ because the other city, Nicaea, using the three urns type did not use a legend matching the one below. ΤΡΙC ΝΕΩΚΟΡΩΝ refers to the city having the honor of three neocorate temples. Many cities had one temple, two was special, three was the largest number I've seen. </span><span style="color: #ff0000">Correct? </span><span style="color: #000000">I feel I should be able to find a better explanation of the matter than this short piece:</span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Neocorate" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Neocorate" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclopædia_Britannica/Neocorate</a></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Where is it?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">This obverse here is used more frequently from Nicomedia with a reverse showing three temples. </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=231393" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=231393" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=231393</a></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"> The three urns are more frequently seen from the neighboring city Nicaea using an obverse with the three in one straight row. </span></p><p><a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=184293" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=184293" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=184293</a></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I see enough similarity in the styles of the coins from both cities to believe both used the same mint. </span><span style="color: #ff0000">Where were these coins actually made?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">Who has triple portrait or neocourate coins to share? </span><span style="color: #000000"> </span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I had a lot of questions and good coins should raise questions.</span><span style="color: #ff0000"> Who will answer them for me?</span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2953270, member: 19463"]My first new coin of 2018 is something I always found interesting but turns out to be even more especially considering its less than perfect condition. I like coins with more than one portrait. This has three. I like coins with agonistic urns. This has three. I like coins that make me ask [COLOR=#ff0000]questions[/COLOR] and this may make it hard to stop with just three. The coin is AE25 from Nicomedia in Bithynia showing Valerian I (left) and Gallienus (right) facing each other and a smaller Valerian II facing right between them. The type is listed in BMC vol.13, page 192 as # 70 but is not illustrated. BMC provides a complete obverse legend as ΑΥΤ ΟΥΑΛΕΡΙΑΝΟC ΓΑΛΛΗΝΟC ΟΥΑΛΕΡΙΑΝΟC of which my coin shows ΑΛΕΡΙΑΝΟC ΓΑΛΛΗΝΟC Ο but I question if there is enough space for all those other letters. [COLOR=#ff0000]I wonder if the BM specimen actually has all the letters to confirm the reading.[/COLOR] Sear mentions that several Provincial mints shortened the name Gallienus to Gallenus as this one does. ([COLOR=#ff0000]Why had I not noticed this before?[/COLOR] I need to pay more attention.) Under Gallienus is a raised region with some small points around the edge and a voided circle in the center. [COLOR=#ff0000]What is this?[/COLOR] Flaw? Countermark? [ATTACH=full]721796[/ATTACH] The reverse shows three agonistic urns as awarded a prizes in contests (often athletic). [COLOR=#ff0000] Is there a code to the number of palms in the urns? What games produced these victories? [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]The city name is off flan at the top. I am confident that this is ΝΙΚΟΜHΔΕΩΝ because the other city, Nicaea, using the three urns type did not use a legend matching the one below. ΤΡΙC ΝΕΩΚΟΡΩΝ refers to the city having the honor of three neocorate temples. Many cities had one temple, two was special, three was the largest number I've seen. [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Correct? [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000]I feel I should be able to find a better explanation of the matter than this short piece: [url]https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Neocorate[/url][/COLOR] [COLOR=#ff0000]Where is it? [/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000]This obverse here is used more frequently from Nicomedia with a reverse showing three temples. [url]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=231393[/url] The three urns are more frequently seen from the neighboring city Nicaea using an obverse with the three in one straight row. [/COLOR] [url]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=184293[/url] [COLOR=#000000]I see enough similarity in the styles of the coins from both cities to believe both used the same mint. [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]Where were these coins actually made? Who has triple portrait or neocourate coins to share? [/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] I had a lot of questions and good coins should raise questions.[/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000] Who will answer them for me?[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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