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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 2095738, member: 15309&quot;]If people want to complain about the way PCGS grades coins, that is fine.&nbsp; If they think that market grading is horrible and wish that the old antiquated ANA standards were still used, that is their prerogative.&nbsp; But what you can&#039;t do is claim that PCGS does not follow their own standards.&nbsp; They have published a book called THE PCGS OFFICIAL GUIDE TO COIN GRADING AND COUNTERFEIT DETECTION that clearly defines their standards.&nbsp; The relevant section of the book that applies to our current conversation can be found in Chapter 5:&nbsp; ELEMENT OF A COIN&#039;S GRADE, in the first section which addresses the issue of wear.&nbsp; The relevant quotes are shown below.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>For everyone who claims that PCGS states that the dividing point between circulated and uncirculated is the presence of wear, you are wrong.&nbsp; Despite the fact that there may be slight inconsistencies within the text as it relates to the specific rules by grade &amp; series, this portion of the text comes first an firmly establishes the exception to the rule that &quot;wear is wear.&quot;&nbsp; PCGS also addresses the specific topic of roll/bag friction on the next page and here is the relevant quote.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This defines the market grading procedure that PCGS uses to determine whether or not a Saint is uncirculated since virtually all of them show some measure of high point friction.&nbsp; It is clear that any wear in the fields will relegate the coin to AU status.&nbsp; If there is no wear in the fields, then PCGS looks for the wear to display a brown grayish look that does not &quot;roll&quot; under a light source.&nbsp; Absent this, they will grade the Saint as&nbsp; a mint state coin.&nbsp; Furthermore, PCGS decided that this point was so important that they included a photo diagram that encompasses almost an entire page (see below).</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Roll%20Friction/Roll%20Friction%20Saint%20Gaudens%20_zpszg7oclli.jpeg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The PCGS standards are clear.&nbsp; What I have never seen are the written standards relating to roll/bag friction published by the ANA since I don&#039;t have a published copy of the ANA standards.&nbsp; Perhaps one of you nice gentleman who revere the ANA grading standards can show us what the policy is.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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