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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2094197, member: 15309"]What you call pretentious, I call an expert opinion. The fact is that coins exist with high point friction that have never been in circulation. Rather than condemn all these coins to AU status, I am willing to trust that expert graders will make a judgement call based on experience and knowledge of the series. Have you ever seen a Roosevelt dime with high point friction in an MS holder? The standard that the TPGs employ is one that requires field impairment on series that are plagued by high point friction. Undoubtedly, this will result in a small number of actual AU coins that get graded MS. I am willing to accept this if it means that a larger number of coins are accurately graded.</p><p><br /></p><p>Don't think that I don't understand your point as it relates to this issue. The fact that they can't be certain about source of the friction will lead to inconsistency and mistakes. For example, NGC graded this coin both AU58 and MS62 within a 3 month period.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Standing%20Liberty%20Quarters/SLQ1924NGCAU58Crackout_zps795a85a7.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Standing%20Liberty%20Quarters/SLQ1924NGCMS62_zps9cc13b67.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Do we know for certain that the friction on the leg is from circulation wear? No, do we know for certain that it is related to roll friction? Of course not. But when you see a coin from a series that is known for high point friction and there are no other signs of circulation wear, the logical conclusion is to assume that the coin is uncirculated and assign the grade accordingly.</p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding my tangential question, I find that most of my older friends (of which I have many) who are rigid in their thinking also tend resist advances in modern technology. Most of my friends in their 60's & 70's won't even consider getting a smart phone, and those that do have one have no idea how to use it.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2094197, member: 15309"]What you call pretentious, I call an expert opinion. The fact is that coins exist with high point friction that have never been in circulation. Rather than condemn all these coins to AU status, I am willing to trust that expert graders will make a judgement call based on experience and knowledge of the series. Have you ever seen a Roosevelt dime with high point friction in an MS holder? The standard that the TPGs employ is one that requires field impairment on series that are plagued by high point friction. Undoubtedly, this will result in a small number of actual AU coins that get graded MS. I am willing to accept this if it means that a larger number of coins are accurately graded. Don't think that I don't understand your point as it relates to this issue. The fact that they can't be certain about source of the friction will lead to inconsistency and mistakes. For example, NGC graded this coin both AU58 and MS62 within a 3 month period. [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Standing%20Liberty%20Quarters/SLQ1924NGCAU58Crackout_zps795a85a7.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o59/ACPitBoss/Standing%20Liberty%20Quarters/SLQ1924NGCMS62_zps9cc13b67.jpg[/IMG] Do we know for certain that the friction on the leg is from circulation wear? No, do we know for certain that it is related to roll friction? Of course not. But when you see a coin from a series that is known for high point friction and there are no other signs of circulation wear, the logical conclusion is to assume that the coin is uncirculated and assign the grade accordingly. Regarding my tangential question, I find that most of my older friends (of which I have many) who are rigid in their thinking also tend resist advances in modern technology. Most of my friends in their 60's & 70's won't even consider getting a smart phone, and those that do have one have no idea how to use it.[/QUOTE]
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