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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2088748, member: 46237"]No I'm not talking about PF or PL, though they are certainly related. Rather I'm talking about the progression of die states of regular strikes from die wear. For example:</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's an 1836 B-3 relatively Early Die State (MS64). There's a faint die crack in this one but as close to perfect as I could find with a cursory search on Heritage.:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B5%2F8%2F5%2F6%2F5856406%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B5%2F8%2F5%2F6%2F5856407%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And here's the same variety in a Terminal Die State (MS62). You'll notice both extreme die cracks and areas of <i>extremely</i> weak strike due to the buckling of the obverse die.:</p><p><img src="http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F4%2F8%2F6%2F1486232%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F4%2F8%2F6%2F1486233%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here's another example, this one is an 1833 B-1 Early Die State (MS63):</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F3%2F3%2F2%2F11332870%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And here's the same variety in a Late Die State (MS64). You'll notice extreme die pitting and several areas with clash marks. The terminal die state for this die had stronger pitting than this example in a couple areas, especially the clasp, but this is fairly close.:</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B4%2F5%2F9%2F7%2F4597434%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And yes of course two examples of the same coin, one with flaws and one without can be graded the same. The above coins are attractive uncirculated examples of coins struck at extreme ends in the life of the dies. Personally I prefer the look and character of the terminal die states to the early ones.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2088748, member: 46237"]No I'm not talking about PF or PL, though they are certainly related. Rather I'm talking about the progression of die states of regular strikes from die wear. For example: Here's an 1836 B-3 relatively Early Die State (MS64). There's a faint die crack in this one but as close to perfect as I could find with a cursory search on Heritage.: [IMG]http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B5%2F8%2F5%2F6%2F5856406%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] [IMG]http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B5%2F8%2F5%2F6%2F5856407%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] And here's the same variety in a Terminal Die State (MS62). You'll notice both extreme die cracks and areas of [I]extremely[/I] weak strike due to the buckling of the obverse die.: [IMG]http://dyn1.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F4%2F8%2F6%2F1486232%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] [IMG]http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F4%2F8%2F6%2F1486233%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] Here's another example, this one is an 1833 B-1 Early Die State (MS63): [IMG]http://dyn3.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B1%2F1%2F3%2F3%2F2%2F11332870%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] And here's the same variety in a Late Die State (MS64). You'll notice extreme die pitting and several areas with clash marks. The terminal die state for this die had stronger pitting than this example in a couple areas, especially the clasp, but this is fairly close.: [IMG]http://dyn2.heritagestatic.com/lf?set=path%5B4%2F5%2F9%2F7%2F4597434%5D%2Csizedata%5B840x2000%5D&call=url%5Bfile%3Aproduct.chain%5D[/IMG] And yes of course two examples of the same coin, one with flaws and one without can be graded the same. The above coins are attractive uncirculated examples of coins struck at extreme ends in the life of the dies. Personally I prefer the look and character of the terminal die states to the early ones.[/QUOTE]
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