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<p>[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2088470, member: 73489"]In the extreme, without sales there's no business and with no business there's probably not a hobby (or at least one like today).</p><p><br /></p><p>In which case the only coin collectors would be the Top 1% or maybe the Top 1% of 1%. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Or maybe grading is the cause and sales are the effect. </p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #b30000">Modern economic theory states that markets are most efficient when you have perfect competition: </span></b> lots of buyers and sellers AND 'perfect' information (or something close to it).</p><p><br /></p><p>In the case of coin information -- grades -- many of us do not feel comfortable going on our own skills. And while I might be willing to be off 1 or even 2 grades on a $500 Morgan Silver Dollar, <b><span style="color: #b30000">I am not going to be willing to be off 1 grade, let alone 2, on a $5,000 Saint-Gaudens.</span></b></p><p><br /></p><p>For all their flaws and problems, the TPGs provide an essential service: increased liquidity and marketability via more information about the coins. Information that is easily verified (the grade on the slab) and understandable. <b><span style="color: #b30000">Hence, more information for both buyers and sellers.</span></b></p><p><br /></p><p><b><span style="color: #00b359">I ask myself a simple question: </span></b> <b><i>would coin collecting be better off in the aggregate or for most of us if the TPGs didn't exist ? </i></b>No way !! Certainly not with more expensive coins. For a State Quarter, I don't think most of us care that much if we overpay a bit.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>For the experts here, <b><span style="color: #b30000">for those of you who treat this like a business and can devote 4 or 6 or 8 or 12 hours a day</span></b> to all things coins, maybe it wouldn't matter and maybe the lack of information wouldn't affect you except that you'd get better deals (monopoly profits exist when imperfect competition occurs; Economics 101 <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> ). </p><p><br /></p><p>But for the casual guy who doesn't have that much time to spend on the hobby...for the guy who can spend 10-15 minutes on Ebay or Heritage Auctions....for the person who goes to 1 or 2 coin shows a year or the LCS every few weeks or months...without TPGs you'd have as many satisfied customers as those buyers of late-night/early-morning coin hucksters on TV. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie9" alt=":eek:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GoldFinger1969, post: 2088470, member: 73489"]In the extreme, without sales there's no business and with no business there's probably not a hobby (or at least one like today). In which case the only coin collectors would be the Top 1% or maybe the Top 1% of 1%. :D Or maybe grading is the cause and sales are the effect. [B][COLOR=#b30000]Modern economic theory states that markets are most efficient when you have perfect competition: [/COLOR][/B] lots of buyers and sellers AND 'perfect' information (or something close to it). In the case of coin information -- grades -- many of us do not feel comfortable going on our own skills. And while I might be willing to be off 1 or even 2 grades on a $500 Morgan Silver Dollar, [B][COLOR=#b30000]I am not going to be willing to be off 1 grade, let alone 2, on a $5,000 Saint-Gaudens.[/COLOR][/B] For all their flaws and problems, the TPGs provide an essential service: increased liquidity and marketability via more information about the coins. Information that is easily verified (the grade on the slab) and understandable. [B][COLOR=#b30000]Hence, more information for both buyers and sellers.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#00b359]I ask myself a simple question: [/COLOR][/B] [B][I]would coin collecting be better off in the aggregate or for most of us if the TPGs didn't exist ? [/I][/B]No way !! Certainly not with more expensive coins. For a State Quarter, I don't think most of us care that much if we overpay a bit.:p For the experts here, [B][COLOR=#b30000]for those of you who treat this like a business and can devote 4 or 6 or 8 or 12 hours a day[/COLOR][/B] to all things coins, maybe it wouldn't matter and maybe the lack of information wouldn't affect you except that you'd get better deals (monopoly profits exist when imperfect competition occurs; Economics 101 :D ). But for the casual guy who doesn't have that much time to spend on the hobby...for the guy who can spend 10-15 minutes on Ebay or Heritage Auctions....for the person who goes to 1 or 2 coin shows a year or the LCS every few weeks or months...without TPGs you'd have as many satisfied customers as those buyers of late-night/early-morning coin hucksters on TV. :eek:[/QUOTE]
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