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<p>[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1291144, member: 26302"]I don't see the confusion. In the other thread I said that a coin which later was found out to be doctored under AT should be returned. I was assuming this coin was simply cleaned, and anyone who looked at it would be able to view that fact. It was not hidden damage, which was exposed later after conservation efforts were attempted.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do not think that simply based upon a TPG opinion of cleaning that anyone, collector or dealer, has a right of return. However, in the other case it was proven by NCS the coin was fraudulently doctored, which to me is tantamount to adding a mintmark, or changing a date, of a coin. In that case I believe right of return should be the same as for fakes, ie forever.</p><p><br /></p><p>Chris</p><p><br /></p><p>Edit: Short version, to me, if there is hidden damage that was hidden intentionally to deceive, a buyer does not have the ability to judge the coin at time of purchase, therefor should have a right to return once the damage is discovered. A coin which does not have anything hidden a buyer has the ability to judge for himself so therefor no return rights should exist. All of this is supposing the coin is not a fake of course.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are legal precedents for this logic. Many times the right to sue starts the day the person realizes they have been damaged, not the day the transaction occurred.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course, I very well may be the only collector who feels this way. I have been known to be "different", right Doug? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1291144, member: 26302"]I don't see the confusion. In the other thread I said that a coin which later was found out to be doctored under AT should be returned. I was assuming this coin was simply cleaned, and anyone who looked at it would be able to view that fact. It was not hidden damage, which was exposed later after conservation efforts were attempted. I do not think that simply based upon a TPG opinion of cleaning that anyone, collector or dealer, has a right of return. However, in the other case it was proven by NCS the coin was fraudulently doctored, which to me is tantamount to adding a mintmark, or changing a date, of a coin. In that case I believe right of return should be the same as for fakes, ie forever. Chris Edit: Short version, to me, if there is hidden damage that was hidden intentionally to deceive, a buyer does not have the ability to judge the coin at time of purchase, therefor should have a right to return once the damage is discovered. A coin which does not have anything hidden a buyer has the ability to judge for himself so therefor no return rights should exist. All of this is supposing the coin is not a fake of course. There are legal precedents for this logic. Many times the right to sue starts the day the person realizes they have been damaged, not the day the transaction occurred. Of course, I very well may be the only collector who feels this way. I have been known to be "different", right Doug? :)[/QUOTE]
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