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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3377838, member: 112"]To be honest, I don't know that it is, but I don't know that isn't either. I mean I've seen a awful lot of really dinged up silver coins, think about Morgans and Peace dollars. And they may well be the best examples to use for comparison purposes, for a couple of different reasons. One, dollar coins have never circulated well in this country, not ever. And the $20 gold coins never circulated well either. And two, with both, large numbers of them sat in coin racks in banks or in bags in the safes and vaults. In the racks neither would get a lot of contact marks, they'd experience wear but not contact marks. But in bags, since both are large heavy coins, and the combined weight of a given coin coupled with the weight of all the other coins above it in the bag striking a coin(s) below them - contact marks would be prevalent. And of course the same kind of thing would happen at the mint when they were minted - think of coin hoppers.</p><p><br /></p><p>And if you think about small denomination gold, the $2.50 and $5.00, you don't really see any more contact marks on them than you do any other coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, I also have to wonder if the overwhelming perception of gold being such a soft metal didn't and doesn't play a part in the perceptions of many people that gold have a lot of contact marks - when in reality they don't have any more or any less than any other coin. I mean people just falsely assume they do because they falsely assume coin gold is soft.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course I'm just thinking out loud here, what I mentioned above is factual information but what we're talking about are people's perceptions and assumptions.</p><p><br /></p><p>But regardless of all of that, it's kind of hard to argue with what I found once I started looking at which is actually harder - 90% silver or 90% gold. And what I found is that the gold is definitely harder, stronger, and longer wearing than the silver.</p><p><br /></p><p>But, like I said, if somebody can find something that says different - I'm ready and willing to listen.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, think about that coin I posted pictures of, the AGE. Do you see it covered with contact marks ? There's only one answer - no. So ask yourself why it isn't ? I mean I carried that coin in my pocket with 4 quarters and a pocket knife - every day for 7 years. That coin was my flippin coin, and I used to flip it a lot ! Letting it land on floors of all kinds, carpet, concrete, wood, tile, linoleum, even asphalt roads and concrete sidewalks, hundreds of times, maybe more. And yet there's scarcely a contact mark on it. But given what it went through - why not ? I mean if gold is such a soft metal - wouldn't you think it would be ?</p><p><br /></p><p>So what does the fact that it isn't tell you ? And it wasn't the only one, there were 4 others that went through exactly the same thing for various periods of time.</p><p><br /></p><p>All I can do is say what it tells me, that coin gold isn't as soft and susceptible to damage as we have all always thought it was. And of course we must also consider that we all based our assumptions on basically one thing - that since pure gold is soft therefore alloyed gold is soft too. But it seems that isn't so at all.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3377838, member: 112"]To be honest, I don't know that it is, but I don't know that isn't either. I mean I've seen a awful lot of really dinged up silver coins, think about Morgans and Peace dollars. And they may well be the best examples to use for comparison purposes, for a couple of different reasons. One, dollar coins have never circulated well in this country, not ever. And the $20 gold coins never circulated well either. And two, with both, large numbers of them sat in coin racks in banks or in bags in the safes and vaults. In the racks neither would get a lot of contact marks, they'd experience wear but not contact marks. But in bags, since both are large heavy coins, and the combined weight of a given coin coupled with the weight of all the other coins above it in the bag striking a coin(s) below them - contact marks would be prevalent. And of course the same kind of thing would happen at the mint when they were minted - think of coin hoppers. And if you think about small denomination gold, the $2.50 and $5.00, you don't really see any more contact marks on them than you do any other coin. Lastly, I also have to wonder if the overwhelming perception of gold being such a soft metal didn't and doesn't play a part in the perceptions of many people that gold have a lot of contact marks - when in reality they don't have any more or any less than any other coin. I mean people just falsely assume they do because they falsely assume coin gold is soft. Of course I'm just thinking out loud here, what I mentioned above is factual information but what we're talking about are people's perceptions and assumptions. But regardless of all of that, it's kind of hard to argue with what I found once I started looking at which is actually harder - 90% silver or 90% gold. And what I found is that the gold is definitely harder, stronger, and longer wearing than the silver. But, like I said, if somebody can find something that says different - I'm ready and willing to listen. Lastly, think about that coin I posted pictures of, the AGE. Do you see it covered with contact marks ? There's only one answer - no. So ask yourself why it isn't ? I mean I carried that coin in my pocket with 4 quarters and a pocket knife - every day for 7 years. That coin was my flippin coin, and I used to flip it a lot ! Letting it land on floors of all kinds, carpet, concrete, wood, tile, linoleum, even asphalt roads and concrete sidewalks, hundreds of times, maybe more. And yet there's scarcely a contact mark on it. But given what it went through - why not ? I mean if gold is such a soft metal - wouldn't you think it would be ? So what does the fact that it isn't tell you ? And it wasn't the only one, there were 4 others that went through exactly the same thing for various periods of time. All I can do is say what it tells me, that coin gold isn't as soft and susceptible to damage as we have all always thought it was. And of course we must also consider that we all based our assumptions on basically one thing - that since pure gold is soft therefore alloyed gold is soft too. But it seems that isn't so at all.[/QUOTE]
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