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<p>[QUOTE="ozland tiger, post: 324334, member: 3168"]Hi again...One of the problems with buying coins 'raw' (non slabbed coins from a top tier third party grader) on e-bay is a high probability these will be problem coins, ie, whizzed, altered surfaces, artifiically toned, or cleaned. You will pay more for the coin than what is actually worth. my advise, if you buying coins that are raw, you must learn to grade coins accurately and be able to discern coins that are whizzed, cleaned, and artificially toned otherwise you will be purchasing less than what you thought. Buying cheap raw coins from e-bay is going to be costly as you will learning these issues the hard and expensive way. Unfortunately, there are too many problem coins out there. </p><p>Interestingly, the year 1878 especially philadelphia minted ( coins with no mint mark) coins are the most studied of the the Morgan dollars and they have many hard to find varieties. Then there are the sixteen varieties of the seven over eight tailfeathers and there are the seven tail feather varieties. Some collectors just collect this facinating year.</p><p>The book by Leroy Van allen, encylopedia of Morgan and peace dollars is actually co-authored by A. George Mallis. Their collaborative work is the foundation for Vam collecting. (Van Allen and Mallis....VAM) </p><p>My guess on the grade of the coin you are looking at would be termed a "slider". By that AU 58 or low end MS61 assuming there are no other problems. I really like to look at raw coins in hand. I look at the luster, focal areas aound the face, and wear on the eagles breast. </p><p><br /></p><p>The PCGS price guide for a PCGS graded 1884-P in AU58 condition is twenty-six dollars. MS 62 is Thirty-seven dollars. At the very least, a PCGS graded coin will be genuine, should not be whizzed, artificially toned (but that is a whole other discussion) or cleaned.</p><p>These are issues that I would reccomend you look at little more closely at.</p><p><br /></p><p>Oh...Welcome to this forum. Oz[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ozland tiger, post: 324334, member: 3168"]Hi again...One of the problems with buying coins 'raw' (non slabbed coins from a top tier third party grader) on e-bay is a high probability these will be problem coins, ie, whizzed, altered surfaces, artifiically toned, or cleaned. You will pay more for the coin than what is actually worth. my advise, if you buying coins that are raw, you must learn to grade coins accurately and be able to discern coins that are whizzed, cleaned, and artificially toned otherwise you will be purchasing less than what you thought. Buying cheap raw coins from e-bay is going to be costly as you will learning these issues the hard and expensive way. Unfortunately, there are too many problem coins out there. Interestingly, the year 1878 especially philadelphia minted ( coins with no mint mark) coins are the most studied of the the Morgan dollars and they have many hard to find varieties. Then there are the sixteen varieties of the seven over eight tailfeathers and there are the seven tail feather varieties. Some collectors just collect this facinating year. The book by Leroy Van allen, encylopedia of Morgan and peace dollars is actually co-authored by A. George Mallis. Their collaborative work is the foundation for Vam collecting. (Van Allen and Mallis....VAM) My guess on the grade of the coin you are looking at would be termed a "slider". By that AU 58 or low end MS61 assuming there are no other problems. I really like to look at raw coins in hand. I look at the luster, focal areas aound the face, and wear on the eagles breast. The PCGS price guide for a PCGS graded 1884-P in AU58 condition is twenty-six dollars. MS 62 is Thirty-seven dollars. At the very least, a PCGS graded coin will be genuine, should not be whizzed, artificially toned (but that is a whole other discussion) or cleaned. These are issues that I would reccomend you look at little more closely at. Oh...Welcome to this forum. Oz[/QUOTE]
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