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<p>[QUOTE="SorenCoins, post: 8368052, member: 73708"]Thank you all for the responses. I am definitely familiar with the shelf-like distinction for MD.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have seen this image a number of times over the years, but I am starting to wonder if the difference in relief between the design element and the doubling is not as applicable in ultra-modern coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am copy-and-pasting a few images of modern doubled dies below to show what I mean. I feel like a lot of the examples would be initially disregarded because the doubling is shelf-like. Some have rather flat doubling as well.</p><p><img src="http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/2018/2018d1dr001l.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>^^ CopperCoins <a href="http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=2018&die_id=2018d1dr001&die_state=lds" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=2018&die_id=2018d1dr001&die_state=lds" rel="nofollow">2018D-1DR-001</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/8edc6cecb60a7ac3ffff80b5ffffe415.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>^^ Wexler <a href="http://doubleddie.com/2319758.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://doubleddie.com/2319758.html" rel="nofollow">2013-P 10c WDDR-001</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/system/listing_photos/11188/large/DSCN3941.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>^^ Wexler <a href="https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/cat/56" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/cat/56" rel="nofollow">2019-P 5c WDDR-028</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/9b780aa2515a57d6ffff8f933f2261f3.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>^^ Wexler <a href="http://doubleddie.com/2587137.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://doubleddie.com/2587137.html" rel="nofollow">2021-D 1c WWHO-001</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/9b780aa2515a57d6ffff8f983f2261f3.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>^^ Wexler <a href="http://doubleddie.com/2587137.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://doubleddie.com/2587137.html" rel="nofollow">2021-D 1c WDDR-002</a></p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/89c4402e515d5252ffff85df3f6906d9.JPG" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>^^ Wexler <a href="http://doubleddie.com/2551537.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://doubleddie.com/2551537.html" rel="nofollow">2018-D 10c WDDR-002</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I am interested in what you all think about this, as it seems the doubling in some doubled dies on more-recent coinage is of a much lower relief than the original design element and a little contradictory to the picture of the "Actual Doubled Die" in the commonly used infographic. Maybe these doubled dies like the ones shown above are more common after the introduction of single-squeeze hubbing presses in 1996 and 1997 (<a href="http://doubleddie.com/58222.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://doubleddie.com/58222.html" rel="nofollow">source</a> in case anyone's interested).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SorenCoins, post: 8368052, member: 73708"]Thank you all for the responses. I am definitely familiar with the shelf-like distinction for MD. I have seen this image a number of times over the years, but I am starting to wonder if the difference in relief between the design element and the doubling is not as applicable in ultra-modern coins. I am copy-and-pasting a few images of modern doubled dies below to show what I mean. I feel like a lot of the examples would be initially disregarded because the doubling is shelf-like. Some have rather flat doubling as well. [IMG]http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/2018/2018d1dr001l.jpg[/IMG] ^^ CopperCoins [URL='http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=2018&die_id=2018d1dr001&die_state=lds']2018D-1DR-001[/URL] [IMG]http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/8edc6cecb60a7ac3ffff80b5ffffe415.JPG[/IMG] ^^ Wexler [URL='http://doubleddie.com/2319758.html']2013-P 10c WDDR-001[/URL] [IMG]https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/system/listing_photos/11188/large/DSCN3941.JPG[/IMG] ^^ Wexler [URL='https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/listings/cat/56']2019-P 5c WDDR-028[/URL] [IMG]http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/9b780aa2515a57d6ffff8f933f2261f3.JPG[/IMG] ^^ Wexler [URL='http://doubleddie.com/2587137.html']2021-D 1c WWHO-001[/URL] [IMG]http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/9b780aa2515a57d6ffff8f983f2261f3.JPG[/IMG] ^^ Wexler [URL='http://doubleddie.com/2587137.html']2021-D 1c WDDR-002[/URL] [IMG]http://doubleddie.com/mediac/450_0/media/89c4402e515d5252ffff85df3f6906d9.JPG[/IMG] ^^ Wexler [URL='http://doubleddie.com/2551537.html']2018-D 10c WDDR-002[/URL] I am interested in what you all think about this, as it seems the doubling in some doubled dies on more-recent coinage is of a much lower relief than the original design element and a little contradictory to the picture of the "Actual Doubled Die" in the commonly used infographic. Maybe these doubled dies like the ones shown above are more common after the introduction of single-squeeze hubbing presses in 1996 and 1997 ([URL='http://doubleddie.com/58222.html']source[/URL] in case anyone's interested).[/QUOTE]
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