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<p>[QUOTE="BadThad, post: 3102768, member: 17261"]As I recall they use FTIR ATR - which is not a very sensitive technique. That's why they picked grease in the PCGS video, they slather on a TON to a coin and say "see how it's detected". Not hard to detect if there's a 2+mm layer! If they would have picked Verdi-Gone in that video, they would have not received ANY signal at all as that product had almost no IR detectable materials in it. I was LMAO that it was even in their library.....most likely nothing but unmatchable signal noise.</p><p><br /></p><p>Very thin layers cannot be detected with reflectance photospectroscopy - there's just not enough signal getting back to the detector to differentiate from the noise produced. It's hugely different from normal FTIR where the incident light passes through the sample.</p><p><br /></p><p>For sure they're not using MS! The people running the Sniffer are not chemists - just regular PCGS employees trained on running the instrument. Running a mass spec is pretty serious business - even for an analytical chemist. Many chemists that run MS are dedicated to doing only that. The equipment and people that run it are very expensive![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BadThad, post: 3102768, member: 17261"]As I recall they use FTIR ATR - which is not a very sensitive technique. That's why they picked grease in the PCGS video, they slather on a TON to a coin and say "see how it's detected". Not hard to detect if there's a 2+mm layer! If they would have picked Verdi-Gone in that video, they would have not received ANY signal at all as that product had almost no IR detectable materials in it. I was LMAO that it was even in their library.....most likely nothing but unmatchable signal noise. Very thin layers cannot be detected with reflectance photospectroscopy - there's just not enough signal getting back to the detector to differentiate from the noise produced. It's hugely different from normal FTIR where the incident light passes through the sample. For sure they're not using MS! The people running the Sniffer are not chemists - just regular PCGS employees trained on running the instrument. Running a mass spec is pretty serious business - even for an analytical chemist. Many chemists that run MS are dedicated to doing only that. The equipment and people that run it are very expensive![/QUOTE]
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