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Message:: [QUOTE="Insider, post: 4440651, member: 24314"]GDJMSP, posted:"I agree, it really doesn't matter - because when it's done properly you can't tell that it's been done. ...... And Fin, this next part is for you - ...... except by using deductive reasoning. So what's that mean exactly ? It's pretty simple really. In many cases, not all of course but in many cases, one can tell that a coin has been properly cleaned simply by carefully looking at the coin, observing what you see, and then reasoning out how it got to be that way. For example, in some cases a coin may have been covered with dirt and grime, but then it was properly cleaned. But, some small bits of that dirt and grime may still remain in the more protected areas. Or, a coin may have been covered with unsightly toning, in some cases even black. But then the coin was properly cleaned by dipping it, but some small bits of the toning may remain here and there in the more protected areas, but nowhere else. In both cases deductive reasoning tells you that the coin has been properly cleaned." I have one tiny disagreement.  Neither of the above coins was properly cleaned if any tarnish or debris was left on it. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]