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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4438911, member: 112"]I agree, it really doesn't matter - <b>because</b> when it's done properly you can't tell that it's been done. ......</p><p><br /></p><p>And Fin, this next part is for you - ...... except by using deductive reasoning. </p><p><br /></p><p>So what's that mean exactly ? It's pretty simple really. In many cases, not all of course but in many cases, one can tell that a coin has been properly cleaned simply by carefully looking at the coin, observing what you see, and then reasoning out how it got to be that way.</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, in some cases a coin may have been covered with dirt and grime, but then it was properly cleaned. But, some small bits of that dirt and grime may still remain in the more protected areas. Or, a coin may have been covered with unsightly toning, in some cases even black. But then the coin was properly cleaned by dipping it, but some small bits of the toning may remain here and there in the more protected areas, but nowhere else. In both cases deductive reasoning tells you that the coin has been properly cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>And it goes even beyond that. For example, all coins tone and they begin toning the moment after they are struck, this is a given. So if you see a coin that is say 50 years old or older, and it is not toned, then it's a pretty safe bet that coin has been dipped - properly cleaned - again deductive reasoning. Some, stress some, Morgan dollars are one of the few exceptions to this rule. Are there some other coins that are also exceptions ? Yes, but they are very few and far between. </p><p><br /></p><p>But perhaps one of the best and easiest examples to identify as having been properly cleaned are copper coins, especially US cents. I say that because even the population numbers of all US cents that have graded and slabbed as Red far outnumber all the other cents, RB and BN, combined. And since copper is the most reactive coinage metal we have, meaning copper coins tone more readily, easier, and faster than all other coins, the only way there can be more of them that are original mint red than all others combined is if those coins have been properly cleaned - meaning dipped ! Again, deductive reasoning.</p><p><br /></p><p>But like Mike said, and if you throw deductive reasoning out, it simply doesn't matter because you can't tell it has been done.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 4438911, member: 112"]I agree, it really doesn't matter - [B]because[/B] when it's done properly you can't tell that it's been done. ...... And Fin, this next part is for you - ...... except by using deductive reasoning. So what's that mean exactly ? It's pretty simple really. In many cases, not all of course but in many cases, one can tell that a coin has been properly cleaned simply by carefully looking at the coin, observing what you see, and then reasoning out how it got to be that way. For example, in some cases a coin may have been covered with dirt and grime, but then it was properly cleaned. But, some small bits of that dirt and grime may still remain in the more protected areas. Or, a coin may have been covered with unsightly toning, in some cases even black. But then the coin was properly cleaned by dipping it, but some small bits of the toning may remain here and there in the more protected areas, but nowhere else. In both cases deductive reasoning tells you that the coin has been properly cleaned. And it goes even beyond that. For example, all coins tone and they begin toning the moment after they are struck, this is a given. So if you see a coin that is say 50 years old or older, and it is not toned, then it's a pretty safe bet that coin has been dipped - properly cleaned - again deductive reasoning. Some, stress some, Morgan dollars are one of the few exceptions to this rule. Are there some other coins that are also exceptions ? Yes, but they are very few and far between. But perhaps one of the best and easiest examples to identify as having been properly cleaned are copper coins, especially US cents. I say that because even the population numbers of all US cents that have graded and slabbed as Red far outnumber all the other cents, RB and BN, combined. And since copper is the most reactive coinage metal we have, meaning copper coins tone more readily, easier, and faster than all other coins, the only way there can be more of them that are original mint red than all others combined is if those coins have been properly cleaned - meaning dipped ! Again, deductive reasoning. But like Mike said, and if you throw deductive reasoning out, it simply doesn't matter because you can't tell it has been done.[/QUOTE]
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