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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3553826, member: 15309"]</p><p><span style="color: #000000">It absolutely is your problem. You are a representative of that company. If you acquiesce to a grade that you don't agree with and didn't assign simply because they pay you, that my friend is tantamount to selling out.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, I'm equating the practice of excusing hyperbole in the form of absolutes. You did it with Doug's comments, and I did it with the passage contained in the PCGS book. Your previous comments cast the authors of that book into a very bad light, unless you meant 100% uninformed crap in a good way. I'm sure Doug will be delighted to hear that he is worse than 100% uninformed crap.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000">See the part highlighted in </span><span style="color: #ff0000">red</span><span style="color: #000000"> above? I'm taking that as the win and moving on. My larger point was that if roll/stacking friction is treated as wear, then virtually every Saint in existence would be graded AU. I know that you don't personally agree with that, and you have said so several times in this thread. But remember, my larger point wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the many people engaged in this thread who believe that "wear is wear" and that coins with roll friction should be graded AU. <i>So, we both agree that most Saints have roll/stacking friction, and those coins should be graded as mint state coins.</i></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000">I'm not even gonna touch the rest of what you wrote there.</span></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It doesn't matter that you graded the coin differently, your aren't a subcontractor, you are an employee. If your grading principles dictate that the coins are AU, but you are fine with them changing your grade because they are paying you, you are a sell out. That is literally the definition of a sell out. It begs the question though. If they just ignore your assigned grade and simply go with the grade assigned by the finalizer, why don't they just have him grade the coins?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I made a very logical argument which deserves an answer better than, "don't be naive!" There are only two scenarios. First is that the TPGs don't change their grading standards. The second is that there is a criminal conspiracy and they are engaged in an ongoing fraud that effects the entire coin collecting community.</p><p><br /></p><p>I am 47 years old.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3553826, member: 15309"][I][COLOR=#330066][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=#000000]It absolutely is your problem. You are a representative of that company. If you acquiesce to a grade that you don't agree with and didn't assign simply because they pay you, that my friend is tantamount to selling out.[/COLOR] No, I'm equating the practice of excusing hyperbole in the form of absolutes. You did it with Doug's comments, and I did it with the passage contained in the PCGS book. Your previous comments cast the authors of that book into a very bad light, unless you meant 100% uninformed crap in a good way. I'm sure Doug will be delighted to hear that he is worse than 100% uninformed crap. [I][COLOR=#330066][/COLOR][/I] [COLOR=#000000]See the part highlighted in [/COLOR][COLOR=#ff0000]red[/COLOR][COLOR=#000000] above? I'm taking that as the win and moving on. My larger point was that if roll/stacking friction is treated as wear, then virtually every Saint in existence would be graded AU. I know that you don't personally agree with that, and you have said so several times in this thread. But remember, my larger point wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the many people engaged in this thread who believe that "wear is wear" and that coins with roll friction should be graded AU. [I]So, we both agree that most Saints have roll/stacking friction, and those coins should be graded as mint state coins.[/I] I'm not even gonna touch the rest of what you wrote there.[/COLOR] It doesn't matter that you graded the coin differently, your aren't a subcontractor, you are an employee. If your grading principles dictate that the coins are AU, but you are fine with them changing your grade because they are paying you, you are a sell out. That is literally the definition of a sell out. It begs the question though. If they just ignore your assigned grade and simply go with the grade assigned by the finalizer, why don't they just have him grade the coins? I made a very logical argument which deserves an answer better than, "don't be naive!" There are only two scenarios. First is that the TPGs don't change their grading standards. The second is that there is a criminal conspiracy and they are engaged in an ongoing fraud that effects the entire coin collecting community. I am 47 years old.[/QUOTE]
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