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Message:: [QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 3553599, member: 15309"]I heard you the first time, no reason to yell.  By working for that company and taking the salary they pay you, you are complicit in the final grade that you don't agree with.  You don't wanna be a sell out?  Quit your job. I refer you back to your own defense of Doug in this very thread and his use of absolutes.  There is no difference between what you defended Doug for doing and what the authors of this section of the PCGS Grading Guide did, NO DIFFERENCE! As to the larger point, an overwhelming majority of Saints show roll/stacking friction and this point was confirmed by a very knowledgeable Saint collector.  And despite all your bluster in this post, you haven't denied my assertion that most Saints to suffer from roll/stacking friction. BTW, it is plainly obvious that I hit a nerve by calling you a sellout.  FWIW, I don't blame you for taking the money, I would probably do the same thing.  But I stand behind what I said.  You are taking money from a company that violates your own grading principles by deliberately over-grading coins that deceives the most vulnerable collectors, the uninformed.  But consider this, would you be so upset if there wasn't a measure of truth to my accusation?[/QUOTE]