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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Lehigh96, post: 3533595, member: 15309&quot;]I have no idea what you are talking about.&nbsp; I wasn&#039;t playing a game, I had a legitimate complaint about Insider&#039;s posting style and even his own wife agreed that it was problematic.&nbsp; Your claim that I was using that complaint to avoid the subject matter is absolutely ridiculous and patently false.&nbsp; The basis of my complaint was that his posting style was preventing me from making my counterpoints, because I couldn&#039;t clean up his posts using a smartphone, I needed a computer.&nbsp; Furthermore, now that I have access to my computer, I have responded to Insider&#039;s posts, proving that there was no attempt to dodge or deflect.</p><p><br /></p><p>Additionally, the only one attempting to ruin this thread is you, with your incessant trolling.&nbsp; The assertion that I, and others that you won&#039;t mention, are ruining threads, is in itself trolling.&nbsp; The basic problem is that you don&#039;t respect dissenting opinions to your own, and have repeatedly trolled both myself and baseball in many different threads.&nbsp; You wanna debate me, fine, have it at, but kindly stop trying to impugn my integrity on this forum with these silly attacks.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The evolution of grading and the implementation of market grading practices such as allowing for roll friction is considered progress by many collectors, including myself.&nbsp; I have clearly illustrated in this thread the injustice that would befall the Saint Gauden&#039;s series if we reverted back to the &quot;wear is wear&quot; philosophy and graded (almost all) of them as AU coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your other assertion that the TPGs have loosened their standards to stay afloat is preposterous and not even worthy of a response.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>All that proves is that if you are a collector, you can still have your own collecting standards that are more conservative than those employed by the TPGs in order to demand a higher level of quality.&nbsp; The fact that I can accept the TPG grading practices while choosing for myself which of their coins meet my standards should prove that the constant attacks on the TPGs are completely unnecessary.</p><p><br /></p><p>That said, I own several coins in my collection whose surfaces are not good for the assigned grade and that were market graded to a higher grade due to exceptional eye appeal and luster.&nbsp; Two that readily come to mind are my 1944-S and 1949-D.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/EYZbrdL.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now imagine this coin was blast white, would it be graded any higher than MS66?&nbsp; My answer is absolutely not, but I also firmly believe that the coin is accurately graded.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="https://i.imgur.com/hIhLpvt.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>One only needs to read my coin description in my registry set to see how I feel about this coin:&nbsp; <span style="color: #0000ff">&quot;Powerful violet centers yield to vibrant sky blue and rainbow bands of gold, pink, sapphire, yellow, cherry red, and lime green at the peripheries.&nbsp; A solid strike and thick mint frost in combination with vibrant powerful rainbow toning <b>push this coin with MS66 surfaces into the MS67 realm</b>.&quot;&nbsp; </span></p><p><br /></p><p>My standards for quality are my own, but I don&#039;t, and have never seen the application of market grading principles as a &quot;subversion&quot; of the grading system.&nbsp; I understand the exceptions that they make, and think that most are logically based.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The key word being &quot;circulation.&quot;&nbsp; Coins with roll friction have never been in circulation, they show high point friction as a result of coin to coin contact during storage or distribution, in the exact same manner that coins obtain surface marks.&nbsp; So while you are concerned that coins with actual circulation will be graded mint state, I am concerned that coins that are actually uncirculated will be graded AU due to high point friction caused by coin to coin contact.&nbsp; The TPGs solution to this problem is to grade coins with extremely minor high point friction as mint state coins unless there is some evidence of friction also present in the fields.&nbsp; I find this a fair solution to the problem and a policy that allows for the highest percentage of coins to be accurately graded.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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