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<p>[QUOTE="Pickin and Grinin, post: 3533515, member: 73995"]I hold true to what I said. Think about it I said when you play the same game that is used by the few. I won't call names but you know who you are. Then it is not allowed. I am big enough to turn the other cheek but are you? If you wish for me to not call you out then stop the practices. It ruins threads that have good speaking points. Again I am guilty as charged.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You mean the grading practices that started the TPG's. And those practices helped them get off the ground. It was only when the TPG's found out more money was needed to keep them afloat that grading standards were loosened to attract more submissions. How ever you want to call it. The old timers in this industry still know what each grade is supposed to look like, They know and have seen that grades have been loosened and in other areas tightened (rare). </p><p>If you are for and want to believe the nonsense that the market is willing to accept then that is your right.</p><p>You sir have a niche in the market that has made you successful. Your registry set is amazing. I have seen most of the coins and am willing to state that you have high standards for each grade and I am willing to agree that most if not all are within this antiquated grading system that you so much dis agree with on these threads. So to call these old timers out for the very thing they preach I actually see you in the same boat. What I don't understand is why you want to let the grading system to be even further subverted with the practices the TPG's use. Unless it is only to buy and sell to further upgrade your coins. </p><p>Coins with circulation should never be graded MS. The same should hold true to the lower grades. If the market was truly left to hold it's own. The collector would spend more time understanding what a certain grade is supposed to look like and buy accordingly. A cabinet friction coin will gets what it is worth in the market place it doesn't need a fictitious number on the slab to say what it is. </p><p>Unless we are working with the ignorant, It seems all to often that a dealer wants his buyers to be ignorant and I blame The top Two TPG's for allowing this to happen. Yes, the TPG's have allowed coins to be more mainstream and easier to move. But it has also made grading even more subjective than it once was. </p><p><br /></p><p>Take the TPG's out of it do you really want a coin that has seen circulation, has cabinet friction, or one that is inferior to others in the same grade?</p><p><br /></p><p>If you wouldn't want one of these coins then why would you accept that the practice is commendable?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Pickin and Grinin, post: 3533515, member: 73995"]I hold true to what I said. Think about it I said when you play the same game that is used by the few. I won't call names but you know who you are. Then it is not allowed. I am big enough to turn the other cheek but are you? If you wish for me to not call you out then stop the practices. It ruins threads that have good speaking points. Again I am guilty as charged. You mean the grading practices that started the TPG's. And those practices helped them get off the ground. It was only when the TPG's found out more money was needed to keep them afloat that grading standards were loosened to attract more submissions. How ever you want to call it. The old timers in this industry still know what each grade is supposed to look like, They know and have seen that grades have been loosened and in other areas tightened (rare). If you are for and want to believe the nonsense that the market is willing to accept then that is your right. You sir have a niche in the market that has made you successful. Your registry set is amazing. I have seen most of the coins and am willing to state that you have high standards for each grade and I am willing to agree that most if not all are within this antiquated grading system that you so much dis agree with on these threads. So to call these old timers out for the very thing they preach I actually see you in the same boat. What I don't understand is why you want to let the grading system to be even further subverted with the practices the TPG's use. Unless it is only to buy and sell to further upgrade your coins. Coins with circulation should never be graded MS. The same should hold true to the lower grades. If the market was truly left to hold it's own. The collector would spend more time understanding what a certain grade is supposed to look like and buy accordingly. A cabinet friction coin will gets what it is worth in the market place it doesn't need a fictitious number on the slab to say what it is. Unless we are working with the ignorant, It seems all to often that a dealer wants his buyers to be ignorant and I blame The top Two TPG's for allowing this to happen. Yes, the TPG's have allowed coins to be more mainstream and easier to move. But it has also made grading even more subjective than it once was. Take the TPG's out of it do you really want a coin that has seen circulation, has cabinet friction, or one that is inferior to others in the same grade? If you wouldn't want one of these coins then why would you accept that the practice is commendable?[/QUOTE]
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