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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Insider, post: 3525219, member: 24314&quot;]Jaelus, posted: &quot;I don&#039;t disagree with you. Wear is a type of damage (to be clear - I&#039;m not using the numismatic meaning of damage here - I&#039;m saying that wear/rub damages the surfaces of the coin). [<i><span style="color: #ff0000"><b>AGREE</b></span>] As</i> wear happens in a rather uniform and understandable way on a given type, this type of damage (non-numismatic - I&#039;m talking about <i>literal damage</i>) has been used to grade the state of preservation of the coin. [<b><i><span style="color: #ff0000">AGREE</span></i></b>]</p><p><br /></p><p>But the problem created by using damage from wear to grade the coin is that it <b>doesn&#039;t leave any way to grade coins that don&#039;t have damage from wear</b>. [<b><i><span style="color: #ff0000">AGREE.&nbsp; THAT&#039;S&nbsp; BECAUSE WEAR (Damage to the coin&#039;s surface) IS NOT A CONSIDERATION WHEN GRADING MINT STATE (60-70) COINS!</span></i></b>] Which is why we use 61-70 instead of just a single grade for 60 representing no wear. Obviously, there are states of quality that also apply to coins without wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>What I&#039;m advocating for is solving <b><span style="color: #660066">this problem</span></b> [<b><span style="color: #ff0000">IMO, there is no problem EXCEPT for those who don&#039;t understand that wear is not used to grade MS coins.&nbsp; The amount of wear determines a coin&#039;s circulated grade</span></b>!] by saying <i>wear is not special</i>. Instead of using wear to grade the coin, you use <i>any</i> damage, including marks, hairlines, hits, rub, etc. which accounts for wear and also accounts for marks on non-worn coins. This way you have a continuous scale from 1-70 without a break when you encounter coins with no wear.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a side effect of this, it no longer becomes important to distinguish mint state coins from <i>virtually</i> mint state coins.&quot;&nbsp; [<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie15" alt=":arghh:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie5" alt=":confused:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie46" alt=":facepalm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> <b><i><span style="color: #660066">THIS IS THE PROBLEM!</span></i></b>][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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