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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3507378, member: 112"]Wear is wear. It absolutely holds up to scrutiny. And the reason it does is because it is the only rule/definition of MS that does hold up to scrutiny ! Which of course is why it was chosen to be the definition - its very simplicity is pure genius. Because it either is or it isn't - there are no maybes.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, they didn't make up an exception to "fairly grade" a large group of coins. They made up the exception for one reason and one reason only - to give people (their customers) the grades they wanted on their coins. And it wasn't for only one large group of coins either - they apply the very same exception to a great many other coin types as well !</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes it does, and it works very well. And it is the only philosophy that does work ! Why ? Again, simplicity. It's because there is absolutely no way to distinguish wear from actual circulation from wear caused by roll friction, cabinet friction, stacking friction, album friction, or any other kind of friction. That's because all friction/wear is simply friction/wear. IT ALL LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME !</p><p><br /></p><p>And don't try and give me this nonsense that one can tell the difference because coins used in actual circulation get contact marks, hairlines, or scratches on them and coins not in actual circulation don't. That's horse puckey ! Coins can get all those things on them when they fall from the press into the hopper; when the hoppers are moved around, when the coins are bagged, and when the bags are moved - all of which happens long before the coins ever see actual circulation. </p><p><br /></p><p>And then there's that one other problem that simply cannot be denied, and that glaringly points out why the TPG exception DOES NOT work. What is it ? The simple fact that you can find coin after coin, in actual circulation - that has no wear on it ! That's why a coin being in actual circulation simply cannot be the defining factor to distinguish an MS coin. And that is precisely the reason used to "validate" the TPG exception - they claim these coins were never in actual circulation therefore they are MS. </p><p><br /></p><p>Well, that would all be well and good except for all those other coins that were in actual circulation but yet still are MS because they have no wear on them !</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>There is only one "problem" created by wear is wear - people, collectors and dealers, simply don't get the grades they want on their coins. That is the one and only reason they don't want to use it ![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3507378, member: 112"]Wear is wear. It absolutely holds up to scrutiny. And the reason it does is because it is the only rule/definition of MS that does hold up to scrutiny ! Which of course is why it was chosen to be the definition - its very simplicity is pure genius. Because it either is or it isn't - there are no maybes. No, they didn't make up an exception to "fairly grade" a large group of coins. They made up the exception for one reason and one reason only - to give people (their customers) the grades they wanted on their coins. And it wasn't for only one large group of coins either - they apply the very same exception to a great many other coin types as well ! Yes it does, and it works very well. And it is the only philosophy that does work ! Why ? Again, simplicity. It's because there is absolutely no way to distinguish wear from actual circulation from wear caused by roll friction, cabinet friction, stacking friction, album friction, or any other kind of friction. That's because all friction/wear is simply friction/wear. IT ALL LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME ! And don't try and give me this nonsense that one can tell the difference because coins used in actual circulation get contact marks, hairlines, or scratches on them and coins not in actual circulation don't. That's horse puckey ! Coins can get all those things on them when they fall from the press into the hopper; when the hoppers are moved around, when the coins are bagged, and when the bags are moved - all of which happens long before the coins ever see actual circulation. And then there's that one other problem that simply cannot be denied, and that glaringly points out why the TPG exception DOES NOT work. What is it ? The simple fact that you can find coin after coin, in actual circulation - that has no wear on it ! That's why a coin being in actual circulation simply cannot be the defining factor to distinguish an MS coin. And that is precisely the reason used to "validate" the TPG exception - they claim these coins were never in actual circulation therefore they are MS. Well, that would all be well and good except for all those other coins that were in actual circulation but yet still are MS because they have no wear on them ! There is only one "problem" created by wear is wear - people, collectors and dealers, simply don't get the grades they want on their coins. That is the one and only reason they don't want to use it ![/QUOTE]
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