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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3503392, member: 112"]The point I was trying to get across is that, at least in my eyes, it seems as if people are calling the gross over-grading of the TPGs - market grading. Or, to put it another way, attributing the gross over-grading to market grading, as if market grading were the cause or reason for it.</p><p><br /></p><p>But that's not the case at all. The problem, the reason, for the gross over-grading is not with the market grading system. If it was, then all the coins from '86 -'04 would have been over-graded as well. But since they were not over-graded, we know the market grading system is not the problem, not the reason.</p><p><br /></p><p>Some others seem to think that the valuing of coins, the TPGs assigning grades based on the value of a coin - is what defines market grading. But that's not the case either. Because if it was then all the coins graded between '86-'04 would have also had grades assigned based on value. Since they were not, we know that is not so.</p><p><br /></p><p>No, the problem, the reason for all of it is very simple. It's because the TPGs have changed all the grading criteria for each individual grade. They haven't change the grading system - they've changed the individual criteria the system is based on. And that's not the same thing as changing from one system to another.</p><p><br /></p><p>All the coins graded from '86-'04, all of them were graded using the market grading system based on quality of luster, quality of strike, eye appeal, the number of contact marks and their severity and location, hairlines, scratches, and wear. The very same things that all the coins graded after '04 were graded based on.</p><p><br /></p><p>BUT - after '04, the number of contact marks allowed for a given MS grade, increased and greater allowances (leniency) were given for their severity, same for the number of hairlines and scratches, the quality of luster required for a given grade was decreased, the quality of strike required was decreased, the quality of eye appeal required was decreased, and wear was suddenly allowed - AU coins became MS coins - when wear had not been allowed before.</p><p><br /></p><p>That's the problem, that's the reason for the over-grading - changing criteria. It's all still market grading, it was market grading before '04 and it was market grading after '04.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 3503392, member: 112"]The point I was trying to get across is that, at least in my eyes, it seems as if people are calling the gross over-grading of the TPGs - market grading. Or, to put it another way, attributing the gross over-grading to market grading, as if market grading were the cause or reason for it. But that's not the case at all. The problem, the reason, for the gross over-grading is not with the market grading system. If it was, then all the coins from '86 -'04 would have been over-graded as well. But since they were not over-graded, we know the market grading system is not the problem, not the reason. Some others seem to think that the valuing of coins, the TPGs assigning grades based on the value of a coin - is what defines market grading. But that's not the case either. Because if it was then all the coins graded between '86-'04 would have also had grades assigned based on value. Since they were not, we know that is not so. No, the problem, the reason for all of it is very simple. It's because the TPGs have changed all the grading criteria for each individual grade. They haven't change the grading system - they've changed the individual criteria the system is based on. And that's not the same thing as changing from one system to another. All the coins graded from '86-'04, all of them were graded using the market grading system based on quality of luster, quality of strike, eye appeal, the number of contact marks and their severity and location, hairlines, scratches, and wear. The very same things that all the coins graded after '04 were graded based on. BUT - after '04, the number of contact marks allowed for a given MS grade, increased and greater allowances (leniency) were given for their severity, same for the number of hairlines and scratches, the quality of luster required for a given grade was decreased, the quality of strike required was decreased, the quality of eye appeal required was decreased, and wear was suddenly allowed - AU coins became MS coins - when wear had not been allowed before. That's the problem, that's the reason for the over-grading - changing criteria. It's all still market grading, it was market grading before '04 and it was market grading after '04.[/QUOTE]
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