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<p>[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1507277, member: 37839"]No, I don't think that is his intent. If he didn't have the smug commentary about toning, it might be the case. HE KNOWS that they are artificially toned, from the context of his advertisements in his listings, and is basically knowingly ripping off coin newbies, and less educated collectors. If it were otherwise, why the diatribe on toning and how only a third party grader can know???? His tone is clearly taunting, and there is no way he's innocently duped. He's an ANA member according to his listings, and knowingly violating their ethics (for what that is worth, as there are so many violations of ANA ethics).</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's his exact wording, and it is pretty cleverly expressed so as to deny any complicity, but shows that he knows all too well what he's doing. This is right from HIS listings:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="2"><p style="text-align: center"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><i>Pictures do a MUCH better Job than </i></b></font></span></p></font></p><p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><i>anyone's written Description, so?</i></b></font></span></p></font></p><p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><i>Let's leave it at That! </i></b></font></span></p><p></font><font size="7"><p style="text-align: center"></p><p></font><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"></font><p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><br /></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b>The Pictures Shown Shows EXACTLY</b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b>what your bidding on and WILL Receive.</b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b>No Trickery, No Special Lighting,</b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b>No Photo Shop </b></i></font></span></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"></font><font size="7"><p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b>Enhancement</b></i></font></span></font></p><p></font><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"><br /></font></p><p><font size="2"></font><p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #002CFD"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #002CFD"><span style="color: #000000"></span></span></b></i></font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #0080BC">An Important Note Regarding Tone!</span></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #0080BC"></span></b></i></font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">If the coin you are looking at is toned, please continue.</span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC"><br /></span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">A lot of discussion and debate about toning has</span></b></font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">been </span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">brought to light over the years</span></b></font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #0080BC">.</span></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #0080BC"><br /></span></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #0080BC">This debate is mostly centered around if the </span></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #0080BC">tone is natural or AT.</span></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #0080BC"><br /></span></b></i></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><i><b><span style="color: #0080BC"></span></b></i></font></span><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">In my opinion, only a qualified grading company can qualify </span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">the difference, that is your best avenue for assurance.</span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC"><br /></span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">In light of all the Word & Phrase"Gimmick's" out there, I will only state the term {TONED} in my listings.</span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">I will NEVER use the terms "Rainbow (or) Monster" Silly stuff like that!</span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC"><br /></span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">As a Trading Partner and fellow collector </span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">I suggest that you use your </span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">BEST judgement when considering </span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">the beauty of toned coins,</span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC">and as a wise man once told me?</span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC"><br /></span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC"><span style="color: #000000">"BUY THE COIN, NOT THE SLAB"</span></span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="color: #0080BC"><span style="color: #000000"><br /></span></span></b></font></span></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><font size="2"><br /></font></p> <p style="text-align: center"><br /></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1507277, member: 37839"]No, I don't think that is his intent. If he didn't have the smug commentary about toning, it might be the case. HE KNOWS that they are artificially toned, from the context of his advertisements in his listings, and is basically knowingly ripping off coin newbies, and less educated collectors. If it were otherwise, why the diatribe on toning and how only a third party grader can know???? His tone is clearly taunting, and there is no way he's innocently duped. He's an ANA member according to his listings, and knowingly violating their ethics (for what that is worth, as there are so many violations of ANA ethics). Here's his exact wording, and it is pretty cleverly expressed so as to deny any complicity, but shows that he knows all too well what he's doing. This is right from HIS listings: [SIZE=2][CENTER][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][B][I]Pictures do a MUCH better Job than anyone's written Description, so? Let's leave it at That! [/I][/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/CENTER] [/SIZE][SIZE=7][CENTER][/CENTER] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][CENTER][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][I][B] The Pictures Shown Shows EXACTLY what your bidding on and WILL Receive. No Trickery, No Special Lighting, No Photo Shop [/B][/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER] [SIZE=2] [/SIZE][SIZE=7][CENTER][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][I][B]Enhancement[/B][/I][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/CENTER] [/SIZE][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][CENTER][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][I][B][COLOR=#002CFD][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/COLOR][/B][/I][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][I][B][COLOR=#0080BC]An Important Note Regarding Tone! [/COLOR][/B][/I][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][B][COLOR=#0080BC]If the coin you are looking at is toned, please continue. A lot of discussion and debate about toning has[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][B][COLOR=#0080BC]been brought to light over the years[/COLOR][/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][I][B][COLOR=#0080BC]. This debate is mostly centered around if the tone is natural or AT. [/COLOR][/B][/I][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial][B][COLOR=#0080BC]In my opinion, only a qualified grading company can qualify the difference, that is your best avenue for assurance. In light of all the Word & Phrase"Gimmick's" out there, I will only state the term {TONED} in my listings. I will NEVER use the terms "Rainbow (or) Monster" Silly stuff like that! As a Trading Partner and fellow collector I suggest that you use your BEST judgement when considering the beauty of toned coins, and as a wise man once told me? [COLOR=#000000]"BUY THE COIN, NOT THE SLAB" [/COLOR][/COLOR][/B][/FONT][/COLOR] [/SIZE] [/CENTER][/QUOTE]
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