This MS64 1883S looks fake AF to me (eBay, of course)

eBays response, according to AI bot....It looks good to them.
So I responded to eBay.
So if I buy the blatant fake and the seller actually ships the coin pictured...I confirm with PCGS that it is a FAKE COIN IN A FAKE PCGS HOLDER, will eBay refund my money under the eBay guarantee?
Sounds like a waste of time and money But it is one way to get these COUNTERFEIT COINS off the market. Seems like eBay doesn't care ??

 

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There are full slab images in the listing. What's funny to me is that they picked a cert# with TrueView, and it's clearly not the same coin even if it was real. https://www.pcgs.com/cert/38500522 if the link saves someone some typing. I struggle to have sympathy for people bidding on this garbage because I think most of them are motivated by greed and not intelligence.

 

I reported it again.

 

Forget the guarantee, they are committing felony mail fraud if they knowingly participate in this (as well as violating the Hobby Protection Act). I learned something interesting as a result of the 1916-D dime in another thread - you don't even need to actually mail the item to be guilty of it.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Federal-mail-fraud.htm
"It's not necessary that mailing be an essential part of the scheme (it can be an incidental piece of it). The government needn't prove that the defendant actually deposited anything in the mail or with the delivery service; it's enough to prove that mailing or depositing the item at a collection point was an eventual part of the plan."

Of course, ebay will try to blame their AI vendor, but in the case of the 1916-D, I chatted online with actual humans who were escalating it to other actual humans.

 

I'm about to join in on reporting this, but on top of the visual catastrophic failure of the coin/slab itself, the fact this seller only has 6 sold items in the past year is another huge red flag.

 

And this is their only item for sale.
@Barney McRae If you're using a desktop, it's the "?" icon in the lower right. They've deliberately made reporting a listing difficult.

 

I'm tempted to drop a few bucks on it just to try and teach the seller a lesson.
Get the point across to eBay, Hit the seller with a return, waste their time and leave negative feedback all while keeping the counterfeit coin.

 

Wonder if when eBay asks you to Mail the coin back...you say that it would be mail fraud and a felony to send COUNTERFEIT COINS through the mail, so you don't feel comfortable doing that

 

Might be the best way possible at this point (I’d check their return policies beforehand though) because I reported it twice with pictures of the same year, same mint coin in a genuine PCGS slab in comparison to what was being listed and eBay stated it didn’t violate any of their policies

 

I’m actually going to try making an identical listing using their pictures but essentially telling people to stay away from it. I also messaged the seller explaining the coin was fake

 

What did they say? Did they play stupid or defensive?

 

It won’t even let me make a listing warning other users, this is infuriating. I really hope there’s someone that wastes that sellers time

 

eBay kept saying that I can’t list anything outside of eBay. I stole his pictures then included a genuine coin of the same year and mint with the listing to show people and even took his name out, but eBay STILL wont let me post

 

In terms of the seller: of course they’re going to remain silent.

 

I have written several articles and done 2 podcasts on these. I talked with the seller of this one as it is the 1st 1883-S "Morgan" Morgan I have seen. I hope to be the high bidder and then the fun begins...

 

I just saw someone made another bid too lol, but that’s awesome you got a YouTube for this stuff! Definitely subbing

 

2 reports to the bay, 2 rejections- 1 by the (secret) customer service agent, 1 by the BayBots...

 

And it is at $320.00 right now as of this post, what an absolute joke. I hope it’s someone here who’s going to waste the F out of the sellers time

 

I finally found the question mark at the bottom right on my laptop. Thank you for pointing that out. I just reported it myself. It's very obvious eBay wants to make it difficult as possible to report counterfeit items. They are well aware of them, but they still make their 13% so they don't care.