This is the best example I've seen so far of how misleading and stupid those coin ID apps can be

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by lordmarcovan, Feb 12, 2025.

  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    From a thread posted yesterday.

    Coinsnap identified a metal slug (a knockout disc from an electrical junction box) as an 1803 Netherlands East Indies 8-stuivers piece. o_O

    And "appraised" it for $50-100.

    Despite the piece of junk metal being entirely featureless. Makes me wonder what the app might've said about a washer. Or an Oreo cookie. :rolleyes:



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    Somebody needs to warn the uninitiated not to trust these apps.

    I recently saw an ad for one, which showed someone using their app to scan a circulated 1967 quarter, which was well worn- perhaps Fine to VF. A piece of face-value pocket change, in other words. Not even a nice example. The demo showed the app appraising that coin for something like $400, and then it showed the user clicking a "sell" button, and then presto! A little checkmark appeared, as the app instantly reported it sold! All complete rubbish. And that was in the demo they used to advertise the app!

    That ad went beyond ridiculousness and well into outright lies-and-fraud territory, if you ask me. Now, I don't remember which app I saw the ad for, or if that one was the same Coinsnap app that's mentioned in the example linked above (I don't think so)- but so far all of the demos of these apps that I've seen have been ridiculous. And the real-life example above only bears that out.

    Now, I'm sure this AI stuff will have some useful numismatic research applications in the future. (And maybe it does already, in certain other areas.)

    But I'm equally certain that it's not even remotely close to being there yet.

    Talk about half-baked technology! Sheesh. :facepalm:
     
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  3. Randy Abercrombie

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  4. ewomack

    ewomack 魚の下着

    It is called "artificial" intelligence for a reason. AI is still in hype phase, but starting to settle down a little bit. A lot of things now called "AI" have existed for years. Atari 2600 Adventure from 1982 arguably uses "AI" to move the dragons and treasures around. Its ultimate impacts are still somewhat uncertain and vague, though it will certainly have impact.
     
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  5. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    I've never heard of that coin and after much googling, I found this image at the NGC site.:rolleyes:

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    Last edited: Feb 12, 2025
  6. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    WOW @LakeEffect . guess we will have to chock that up to honest mistake; so similar. james
     
  7. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Now I'm really getting scarred about AI taking over the world and enslaving/exterminating us.

     
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  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Hm, yeah, that totally looks like the knockout slug from an electrical box! ROFL :p
     
  9. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    That thread made me sad. I guess it's that the OP seemed to believe what the app said instead of recognizing that it's not even a coin, let alone such a specific ID when their own eyes tell them it's a completely blank disk.
     
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  10. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Luckily for our friends and family we are all coin IDers.
     
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  11. No_Ragrets

    No_Ragrets Self-proclaimed Semi-Amateur Numismatist Supporter

    No wonder all of these junction boxes are getting so expensive... they're making the knockouts out of old coins! ;)
     
  12. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    :hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:
     
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