This Is Getting Rediculous.

Discussion in 'Bullion Investing' started by Tyler, Jan 22, 2013.

  1. Tyler

    Tyler Active Member

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  3. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    "Hazards: A suspected carcinogen. Not permitted in cosmetics (FDA). Flammable and explosive as dust or powder, and in form of borings, shavings, etc." Answers.com says "In a powder form the element is an extreme fire and explosive hazard; it may spontaniously combust at any givin {sic} time but is much more likely to explode in warmer tempratures.(note: this element will burn under water)"

    Like Mercury or Osmium, it's unwise for noobs to 'just buy' something they really don't understand or 'need.'
    http://www.espimetals.com/index.php/online-catalog/472-zirconium-zr
    http://www.americanelements.com/zrmi.html
     
  4. avr5700

    avr5700 Member

    There goes my periodic table type set dream!

    Meh, containing and stamping 1oz of the .9999 pure gasses was gonna be a pain anyway...
     
  5. Aslanmia

    Aslanmia Active Member

    So true. So what's the volume of an ounce of helium anyway??
     
  6. Blaubart

    Blaubart Melt Value = 4.50

    Do Want!

    Except for the carcinogen part, you might just be the world's best zirconium salesman!
     
  7. George8789

    George8789 Leaving CoinTalk for good

    I actually saw this yesterday browsing PM sites. It does look and sound incredibly stupid. Companies are just putting all kinds of metals into bars and calling it bullion.
     
  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney Buh bye

    It goes well with rhodium sponge.
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    You can't refine it to .999 due to the Hafnium normally in the ore. However the zirconium used in cladding nuclear fuel rods have the hafnium removed and is of the highest purity. I hope that is not where these are from :) In a bar form it really would be of a low toxicity and ignition risk. It is only when it has a large surface/volume ratio in oxygen presence that ignition is a risk. It is more commonly in nature as a oxide, and found in Zircons ( natural gemstone) and Cubic Zirconium ( man made gemstones). The oxide is used as an abrasive ( best for quartz or glass).

    I would have no trouble having a manufactured bar like that around, except it is overpriced and certainly not rare in nature. IMO.
     
  10. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Avogadro's number and the gas laws ( temp and pressure) will get you the answer :)
     
  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, so will magnesium. In powder form, lots of metals have different personalities -- you can prepare aluminum, iron, titanium, even nickel in such a way that they'll burst into flames on exposure to air.

    Zirconium is actually safer than most metals -- relatively non-toxic, resists corrosion, doesn't burn unless it's really hot or really finely divided.

    Lousy store of value and even worse medium of exchange, though. :)
     
  13. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Sponge is a porous mass. You often get it by making an alloy, then using an acid or other chemical to dissolve one component of the alloy; what's left is porous.

    Powder is, well, powder -- a bunch of separate and very tiny bits.
     
  14. Juan Blanco

    Juan Blanco New Member

    Disappointed you didn't mention fulminating Gold (not exactly the same: shaken not stirred lol)

    Killed Dr. Faustus, no?

    jeffb-
    Nubbins? Rocky bits? Residue and NOT 'ore'?
     
  15. rockyyaknow

    rockyyaknow Well-Known Member

    And you though investing in copper was a scam!!
     
  16. rockyyaknow

    rockyyaknow Well-Known Member

    Can wait for some Uranium rounds to be minted! Those will be nice and safe. Or Lead, I could go for a couple American Lead Eagles!
     
  17. Tyler

    Tyler Active Member

    I was wrong. I am sorry for those who paid 400% premiums on their copper and were made fun of. It was not fair of me to judge. I will, from now on, only poke fun at those who invest in Zirconium bullion.
     
  18. rockyyaknow

    rockyyaknow Well-Known Member

    These bars make investing copper look like gold.
     
  19. Tyler

    Tyler Active Member

    These bars make the Kardashians look like decent human beings.

    I like this game.
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    You could stamp American Liberty on an expired Twinkie (tm) and someone would sell it and someone else would buy it as 'bullion' . A Twinkie conspiracy :)
     
  21. Tyler

    Tyler Active Member

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