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<p>[QUOTE="superc, post: 1730335, member: 44079"]No I am not speaking of the nickle. I am speaking of the originally posted penny. I may address the nickel later, but not yet, and I will write the word nickel when I do.</p><p>The originally posted penny allegedly exhibiting evidence of doubling. When I was a 'lil kid back in the 50s it was not uncommon for me and the other neighborhood kids to take an old penny, put it on dad's vise or anvil and smack it with a hammer just to see what it would look like. Call it early learning via the experimental method. Some of us had access to different size hammers. We would compare, this new penny looks like this when hit with the ball peen hammer, but if I hit that new penny with the stone mason hammer it will look like this, and on and on. Yup, big hammers left noticeable impact marks, but use that little claw hammer Bobby brought over and all that happens is the lettering smears a little. We hit pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters and even Ben Franklins. We learned some metals were more resistant to the hammer's impact than were others. Then, the experiment over we would run to the candy store and spend the battered coins. Usually the store owner would accept them. Once or twice if the coin was noticeably battered he didn't and we had to either go way down the block to the bank and swap it, or bring the damaged penny to our parents and listen to the yelling (guess which resolution was preferred?). </p><p>My problem is the penny in the original post looks so similar to what the pennies we smacked came out looking like, I don't see a difference detectible to the naked eye. So the lettering is smeary. Copper is ductile and malleable. All smeary letters means to me is at some time in the pennies life, some kid smacked it (or tried squishing it in his dad's machinist vice like little Howie did).</p><p>Now suddenly I am to consider smeared in mint strikes and smeared lettering evidence of doubling? Pfui.</p><p>Alternatively, I have no questions or recognition issues about the 1955 double strike. That is exactly what I have been looking for (but never found).</p><p>I handle thousands of pennies. In the past week alone I must have handled at least 100 with filled in mint marks, or thick letters. To me and my eyes, they are virtually identical to the appearance of a 1950s or early 60s penny which one of us kids beat on with a small hammer. Surely the Bronx was not the only place on earth where kids explored and experimented with the world around them. I imagine kids are still kids, therefore, if it was a post 1982 penny it went to Coinstar or the current Coinstar bin and was not considered a double strike. </p><p>I do not dispute that the first penny is a double strike. I am merely saying, I don't see it. Alternatively, the 1955 penny is clearly a double strike.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="superc, post: 1730335, member: 44079"]No I am not speaking of the nickle. I am speaking of the originally posted penny. I may address the nickel later, but not yet, and I will write the word nickel when I do. The originally posted penny allegedly exhibiting evidence of doubling. When I was a 'lil kid back in the 50s it was not uncommon for me and the other neighborhood kids to take an old penny, put it on dad's vise or anvil and smack it with a hammer just to see what it would look like. Call it early learning via the experimental method. Some of us had access to different size hammers. We would compare, this new penny looks like this when hit with the ball peen hammer, but if I hit that new penny with the stone mason hammer it will look like this, and on and on. Yup, big hammers left noticeable impact marks, but use that little claw hammer Bobby brought over and all that happens is the lettering smears a little. We hit pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters and even Ben Franklins. We learned some metals were more resistant to the hammer's impact than were others. Then, the experiment over we would run to the candy store and spend the battered coins. Usually the store owner would accept them. Once or twice if the coin was noticeably battered he didn't and we had to either go way down the block to the bank and swap it, or bring the damaged penny to our parents and listen to the yelling (guess which resolution was preferred?). My problem is the penny in the original post looks so similar to what the pennies we smacked came out looking like, I don't see a difference detectible to the naked eye. So the lettering is smeary. Copper is ductile and malleable. All smeary letters means to me is at some time in the pennies life, some kid smacked it (or tried squishing it in his dad's machinist vice like little Howie did). Now suddenly I am to consider smeared in mint strikes and smeared lettering evidence of doubling? Pfui. Alternatively, I have no questions or recognition issues about the 1955 double strike. That is exactly what I have been looking for (but never found). I handle thousands of pennies. In the past week alone I must have handled at least 100 with filled in mint marks, or thick letters. To me and my eyes, they are virtually identical to the appearance of a 1950s or early 60s penny which one of us kids beat on with a small hammer. Surely the Bronx was not the only place on earth where kids explored and experimented with the world around them. I imagine kids are still kids, therefore, if it was a post 1982 penny it went to Coinstar or the current Coinstar bin and was not considered a double strike. I do not dispute that the first penny is a double strike. I am merely saying, I don't see it. Alternatively, the 1955 penny is clearly a double strike.[/QUOTE]
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